Do you support the use of Torture ? (2 Viewers)

[squiresshane990]

i support the use of torture

sick of this pc bullshit

we are prepared to put high velocity 5.56mm bits of copper coated lead through people but not pretend to drown them to get information out of them. fuch i support its use just to demoralise and humiliate them, if they are my enemy.

 

[moll.]

Nup.
Useless on murderers and secular terrorists, as they have only limited aims and most aren't involved in suicidal networks of millenial warmongerers.
Useless on religious terrorists, as they believe the more they suffer the more they are rewarded after death.
Only people it would work on are people indirectly connected to the terrorists, who often are innocent and not at all extremists.

 

[Sir-BigBoyJames]

actually, i support it against Israelis.

 

[Gloves]

Are we talking about torturing people who are ACCUSED of a crime, or people who have already been found guilty of a crime?

 

[Uncle]

actually, i support it against Israelis.

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[Silver Persian]

Are we talking about torturing people who are ACCUSED of a crime, or people who have already been found guilty of a crime?

I am talking about people who have been found guilty. Torture is useless at getting information out of people, but it is an excellent source of retribution.

 

[Graney]

I support the use of torture between a consenting master and slave in an erotic BDSM relationship.

 

[squiresshane990]

Are we talking about torturing people who are ACCUSED of a crime, or people who have already been found guilty of a crime?

meh i dont care who they do it to lol

if you find yourself in a position where you are captured by someone who has an inclination to torture you, you're fucked anyway

 

[Uncle]

I've had a pegleg shoved into my groin, an electric stun knife smacked across my head twice and it didn't work.
Because I was already telling the truth.
I don't have the legacy, the patriots will take it.

Torture doesn't work and it was simply a means of greeting me in an unpleasant way.

gg Central Intelligence Agency and the United States Department of Defense.

 

[Silver Persian]

I'm fairly sure Jesus would support the torture of convicted terrorists

 

[moll.]

Well we all know Muhammed would.

 

[justanotherposter]

Torture often leads to the collection of false information.

No.

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[ashie0]

any country or group of people who utlize torture to gain information are terrorists.
like the war in iraq, torture would probably create more terrorists than it would stop.

 

[Iron]

We're not gunna kill ya
jus gunna cut ya a bit

 

[XPac2]

I agree with it if it's used to shut Iron's mouth.

 

[Silver Persian]

I support the use of torture between a consenting master and slave in an erotic BDSM relationship.

Graney please stop hiding behind the philosophically convincing mask that is "liberalism". I sense that you are beginning to understand the necessity of social control (through violence if necessary) to maintain national cohesion. You can feel the necessity of this in your bones.

The desire for blood is perfectly natural.

 

[Iron]

I think that it's also worthy to note that Our Saviour died in what was an extremely cruel form of torture, but redemption followed soon after. Indeed, the kind criminal received his conversion right there, through the pain and injustice, he chose love at the crucial moment, of his own free will, despite the desire to, say, curse or mock the redeemer's authenticity.
This follows on to much of the learnered yet tragically lost wisdom of the medieval age, where such punishment was considered, in a very real sense, a form of purification from sin.

we're doing u a favour, islams

 

[squiresshane990]

any country or group of people who utlize torture to gain information are terrorists.
like the war in iraq, torture would probably create more terrorists than it would stop.

go back to your society and culture class and do some finger painting or whatever it is you do and leave this discussion to the adults

 

[ashie0]

go back to your society and culture class and do some finger painting or whatever it is you do and leave this discussion to the adults

we discuss far heavier things in s&c, like alcohol and sport
its really very riveting to have 24 or so apathetic teenagers in one room.
robust debate ensues...


edit- sarcasm. apparently it doesnt translate.

 

[Gloves]

meh i dont care who they do it to lol

if you find yourself in a position where you are captured by someone who has an inclination to torture you, you're fucked anyway

You must be joking?

Innocent till proven guilty? No?