Federal Budget 2009-10 (2 Viewers)

[Uncle]

Joe Tripodi releases his report just in time on his $290,000 junket with a few others to spruik the energy sector sell off , have orgys and engorge their mouths with the phalluses of prime ministers around the world

Joe Tripodi defends $290,000 overseas trip - news - national - LIVENEWS.com.au

 

[squiresshane990]

Fuck the people that actually live in the area with the parrot? They can get on their bike and find new jobs elsewhere.

yeah fuck those deniliquin cunts

 

[squiresshane990]

WHy is infrastructure spending being touted as a stimulus package

the cunt should have been going ahead anyway

 

[Josh22]

I posed this question in the Aus Politics thread, and I think it's an interesting point. I'd love to find out how the broad Baby Boomers generation are receiving the magnitude of debt the government are putting Australia in.

I don't really think the majority of Australians do care tbh.

and the other person said this budget is "Tame".....
200 billion dollars piled on top of our new record trillion dollar foreing debt!!!! that is by no means tame... plus i think most baby boomers will care quite alot and even if they don't, who cares if they do care? its us and the rest of Australia who'll be paying the price in higher taxes, higher interest rates etc...

btw I imagine you have no idea if others care about their budget because you don't watch their native news channels ALTHOUGH you are right about places like Iceland, the inhabitants dont care about their budget (google iceland global economic crisis)

 

[kypros1992]

"I'm happy with whatever this budget is as long as it means less muslims" Bazza, Newcastle

sorry as if muslims are a problem to you, their human and bleed the same colour blood as you

 

[Tully B.]

I question all of those claims and further question whether any of them have a sense of humour.

Sir, you are quite amusing.
You're also racist, but meh; I'm more of a glass-half-full kind of guy.

 

[Tully B.]

"It's clearly a budget. It's got a lot of numbers in it."

— George W. Bush

 

[spiny norman]

Turnbull's budget reply is despicable.

No real named point of difference aside the private health rebate scaling back/cigarette tax increase. So, basically, Turnbull's defending those who are middle class or higher from taking a tiny hit for themselves (unless they decide to, gasp, return to the public health system) while increasing taxes on a product consumed moreso by the poorer and uneducated.

One of the great feats of the conservatives of this world is to on one hand accuse any centrist/leftist government's moves to tax/whatever the rich more of partaking in class warfare, but there's no such claim when they make life that little bit worse for those who need the most assistance.

I'm looking forward to the death of the era of economic rationalism.

 

[withoutaface]

No real named point of difference aside the private health rebate scaling back/cigarette tax increase. So, basically, Turnbull's defending those who are middle class or higher from taking a tiny hit for themselves (unless they decide to, gasp, return to the public health system) while increasing taxes on a product consumed moreso by the poorer and uneducated.

What a terrible fate it would be if they couldn't afford smokes anymore!

 

[spiny norman]

Oh, fuck off. He's gone with this shitty populist issue so that if you're at all against it then you're for people smoking and dying of cancer.

The way to stop people from smoking is through education, and we're seeing the results of that (that smoking rates are down and continue to fall). Hence why those who are more comfortably off (and therefore, by and large, better educated) are less likely to smoke, despite the fact they are more able to afford it, than those who are poorly off (therefore, by and large, uneducated).

Taxation should not be some punishment on people. If it were, every single person who agrees with this should be for Labor's alcopops tax. Instead you'll all just engage in partisan hypocricy and praise this idea like the apparatchiks you are. Yawn.

 

[Lentern]

Turnbull's budget reply is despicable.

No real named point of difference aside the private health rebate scaling back/cigarette tax increase. So, basically, Turnbull's defending those who are middle class or higher from taking a tiny hit for themselves (unless they decide to, gasp, return to the public health system) while increasing taxes on a product consumed moreso by the poorer and uneducated.

One of the great feats of the conservatives of this world is to on one hand accuse any centrist/leftist government's moves to tax/whatever the rich more of partaking in class warfare, but there's no such claim when they make life that little bit worse for those who need the most assistance.

I'm looking forward to the death of the era of economic rationalism.

All budget replies are that kind of thing, genuine policy is released in the campaign not potentially 16 months out from an election. Any goodies will be absorbed into government policy, short term points for the opposition but come election time they're worth buckleys to the power of less. And ofcourse the baduns well they become a cross the opposition has to bare for a longtime.

What mattered in his speech was did he talk about how much debt the government had? Yes, did he talk about who the government had let down? Yes, did he introduce a new, exciting idea that will get into the papers? Yes, did he speak in a commanding, powerful, dignified voice? Yes, did he dress well? He dressed nicely but didn't wear his best ensemble i thought, Did he look like a leader? yes.

Is this the way things should be? no. Is it the way they are? yes.

Swan did much better this year than he did last year in terms of delivery(I don't believe the treasurer produces the budget atleast not without some very powerful guidlines laid down by cabinet) but he's got that annoying turn every 2 seconds thing going right now. It's like someones said just keept shuffling and you'll look engaging.

 

[Dichromate]

The biggest joke is the forward estimates.
Going by the treasury assumptions, the 'most serious downturn since the great depression' will be milder than the 'recession we had to have'.
Yeah I believe that. Totally.

 

[Uncle]

for every dolla deficit in da budget im going to be fucken rich.

 

[withoutaface]

Fair point Spiny. Cigarettes are already taxed so hugely. Its a shame WAF often sells out his libertarian views in favor of partisan hackery.

I just think that taxes on goods which have negative externalities (cigarettes on the health system) or which form a user pays system (fuel excise for roads) are a better idea than increasing income tax. It's also my view that in the long run it's cheaper and better for the government to subsidise people onto private health insurance than to have all those people running back to medicare.

 

[jb_nc]

I just think that taxes on goods which have negative externalities (cigarettes on the health system) or which form a user pays system (fuel excise for roads) are a better idea than increasing income tax. It's also my view that in the long run it's cheaper and better for the government to subsidise people onto private health insurance than to have all those people running back to medicare.

sell 0ut accept the only real alternative is a lord of the flies like world

 

[Lentern]

I just think that taxes on goods which have negative externalities (cigarettes on the health system) or which form a user pays system (fuel excise for roads) are a better idea than increasing income tax. It's also my view that in the long run it's cheaper and better for the government to subsidise people onto private health insurance than to have all those people running back to medicare.

Or we could invest more in medicare and reduce the need for prive health insurance? I await your extremist right wing crap about how only socialists think poor people need health care.

 

[whatashotbyseve]

I have no qualms with Rudd's mean testing of private health care. Considering the upper thresholds, it is not exactly an impost to them. They had to cut costs somewhere to finance the pension increase.

 

[withoutaface]

Or we could invest more in medicare and reduce the need for prive health insurance? I await your extremist right wing crap about how only socialists think poor people need health care.

We could invest more in public housing and reduce the need for mortgages.

 

[Lentern]

We could invest more in public housing and reduce the need for mortgages.

Better than than private health insurance subsidies. Private should mean exactly that, if you think your too good for the governments services fine seek someone elses but don't expect a cent of government money to help you and your elitist aspirations.

 

[withoutaface]

Better than than private health insurance subsidies. Private should mean exactly that, if you think your too good for the governments services fine seek someone elses but don't expect a cent of government money to help you and your elitist aspirations.

You are a deadset fucking nong. If you can move everyone in the population over to 30% subsidised private health cover you're still halving government expenditure on health while providing better health cover for all than you could with double that money.

There are other roads to universal health care than socialised medicine you despicable trotskyite.