Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSWS? (1 Viewer)

[aspired]

Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSWS?

 

[Uncle]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

Demand demand demand.
And your typical UNSWer is better than a UWS student.

 

[decca]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

simply put, because UWS is crap compared to UNSW and USYD.

 

[imsopostmodern]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

laws of demand and supply.

 

[Doomah]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

leChatliers Principle

 

[melsc]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

Demand, more people want to got to Usyd and UNSW.

It is also a younger uni thus doesn't have the prestige AND the location (+ multiple campuses) make it a less popular option.

That said, the courses and textbooks used by students there are prety much the same. Don't listen to people who havent been there or current HSC students telling you it is crap. Talk to people who went there and remember reputation is not everything.

Best of luck

 

[kickass91]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

same reason as why an actuarial studies degree has such a low atar requirement ~96 at unsw ~ 95 at ANU 97 at MQ? even though its one of the hardest

demand and supply

 

[Borbor]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

no equlibrium

hahah!

That made me lol!

 

[zazzy1234]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

but don't u get da same bachuler or degree or wateva in da end?

 

[luk3tm]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

but don't u get da same bachuler or degree or wateva in da end?

yeah mate but if u go to UNSW or UYSD u will get a degree that says "UNSW" or "UYSD" written on it instead of "UoWS." Not that University of western sydney is bad but UNSW and UYSD are top in the state.

Simply put, employers prefer top universities like UNSW or UYSD (which also usually have better teaching and stuff) and therefore these unis have higher starting salaries for most jobs and so they are harder to get into because more people wanna go there!

hope my explaination clears things up a bit

 

[tallkid34]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

but don't u get da same bachuler or degree or wateva in da end?

Like for you, its bacholerette because you're all kewl and stuff. yeah, its like the same thing or wateva in the end, so keep tryin hord and shat for youz uws degre!!

yeah mate but if u go to UNSW or UYSD u will get a degree that says "UNSW" or "UYSD" written on it instead of "UoWS." Not that University of western sydney is bad but UNSW and UYSD are top in the state.

Simply put, employers prefer top universities like UNSW or UYSD (which also usually have better teaching and stuff) and therefore these unis have higher starting salaries for most jobs and so they are harder to get into because more people wanna go there!

hope my explaination clears things up a bit

I won't say you're wrong but the real world isnt as simple as just cherrypicking undergrads from the top ranked unis for everything. Different fields of employment vary on how they hire individuals.

I'll basically put it that students from universities apart from unsw/usyd will obviously stand a chance at employment. The thing is, you'll have to compete with new south asians and sydney private school kids.

 

[zazzy1234]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

yeah mate but if u go to UNSW or UYSD u will get a degree that says "UNSW" or "UYSD" written on it instead of "UoWS." Not that University of western sydney is bad but UNSW and UYSD are top in the state.

Simply put, employers prefer top universities like UNSW or UYSD (which also usually have better teaching and stuff) and therefore these unis have higher starting salaries for most jobs and so they are harder to get into because more people wanna go there!

hope my explaination clears things up a bit

but wen u go n look 4 a job, da employer is gonna ask wat qualification u have? not wta uni did u go 2? lol

 

[babikakez]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

but wen u go n look 4 a job, da employer is gonna ask wat qualification u have? not wta uni did u go 2? lol

Uh, they might ask WHERE you got your qualification and all, just to make sure its authentic.

 

[mr_robato]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

but don't u get da same bachuler or degree or wateva in da end?

Zaz, if your simply after primary school teaching, UWS or USYD, won't matter. Confirmed job just as long as you maintain that credit average (65% i believe?).

 

[zazzy1234]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

Zaz, if your simply after primary school teaching, UWS or USYD, won't matter. Confirmed job just as long as you maintain that credit average (65% i believe?).

okey well wat if i get 65? but da mark is about 72, i doubt they would accept me considering the marks they r after is about 72

 

[chrisnumber1]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

yeah mate but if u go to UNSW or UYSD u will get a degree that says "UNSW" or "UYSD" written on it instead of "UoWS." Not that University of western sydney is bad but UNSW and UYSD are top in the state.

Simply put, employers prefer top universities like UNSW or UYSD (which also usually have better teaching and stuff) and therefore these unis have higher starting salaries for most jobs and so they are harder to get into because more people wanna go there!

hope my explaination clears things up a bit

that is kind of true, due to a diminished reputation caused by people who wanted to go to a different uni but couldn't, however if you get a scholarship it is often a better choice (5000 pa for 90+). as far as employers go i went for interviews for cadetships, and most employers had a tie to the closet uni. eg, parramatta prefered UWS, while ryde preferred Macquarie, however a common theme was a dislike of USYD, due to an inflexibility and "snobbery" in the courses, students and lecturers.

 

[chrisnumber1]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

okey well wat if i get 65? but da mark is about 72, i doubt they would accept me considering the marks they r after is about 72

by your intelligent remarks one may only assume you are from the western suburbs, and for your sake i hope thats true. there is 5 bonus points if you are a GWS resident and additional marks for high bands in certain subjects related to the course (but look who i am talking to)

 

[ComingUpForAir]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

Because there's a huge drop in quality as soon as you leave the Go8 universities, and I say that in the least arrogant way possible.

 

[omniscience]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

bcoz uws pwns usyd and unsw

 

[AshVonB]

Re: Why are ATAR cutoffs at University of Western Sydney far lower than USYD and UNSW

that is kind of true, due to a diminished reputation caused by people who wanted to go to a different uni but couldn't, however if you get a scholarship it is often a better choice (5000 pa for 90+). as far as employers go i went for interviews for cadetships, and most employers had a tie to the closet uni. eg, parramatta prefered UWS, while ryde preferred Macquarie, however a common theme was a dislike of USYD, due to an inflexibility and "snobbery" in the courses, students and lecturers.

BAHAHAHAHAHA

Gold.