NAPLAN results determining access to teaching university degrees (1 Viewer)

[cosmo kramer]

lol i dont believe there'll be any more than maybe a tiny numbe rof kids who will be motivated to stay in school because of good teachers

shitheads dont respect you no matter what you do

 

[Phoenix Fury]

Shitheads are shitheads for a reason though, although home issues/SES play a significant role

 

[cosmo kramer]

shitheads are bad people

 

[Fizzy_Cyst]

yeah but that d=oesnt make up for all ther est

its a bad job

You would know this how?

Teaching is an awesome job if you are a hard worker, have a good faculty and the students are decent.

The highest payscale is not too bad (close to 100k after about 10 yrs of service i think), if you do some tutoring on the side also, you could easily make 150k+
not too bad for a job with 12 weeks paid holidays =)

Some days i only teach 2 periods =) granted during the 4 periods I have off, i mostly do work. But I can do it at my own pace.

I hated it my first year.. love it now =)

 

[cosmo kramer]

You would know this how?

both my parents are teachers
my grandfather was a teacher
anecdotes from people who have become teachers
reading
comparison with other jobs
deduction

but yeah ill have to get a degree and work as a teacher for 15 years to find out for sure

no speculation allowed

Some days i only teach 2 periods =) granted during the 4 periods I have off, i mostly do work. But I can do it at my own pace.

youll get paid 100k to do that eventually will ya

you make me incredibly proud to be a taxpayer bro

 

[SnowFox]

Teacher Pay scaled on how well they teach.

Will make most teachers at my highschool poor.

 

[Fizzy_Cyst]

both my parents are teachers
my grandfather was a teacher
anecdotes from people who have become teachers
reading
comparison with other jobs
deduction

but yeah ill have to get a degree and work as a teacher for 15 years to find out for sure

no speculation allowed



youll get paid 100k to do that eventually will ya

you make me incredibly proud to be a taxpayer bro

So they stuck with being teachers, even though it is so shit? LoL. Seems unrealistic.

People always talk shit about their jobs because, well, it is a job... Nobody is meant to like having a job.. We all want to win the lottery and never have to work again.

Teaching is basically what the teacher makes of it. At every school, you can tell the teachers that want to be there and the teachers that don't. The teachers that put effort in and the teachers that grab an overhead 5 minutes before the lesson. The kids can tell that too.

Im glad I make you proud, your opinion matters. =)

Teacher Pay scaled on how well they teach.

Will make most teachers at my highschool poor.

How would you measure how well they teach?

 

[davidbarnes]

I don't think I've ever had a bad teacher really. Some of them have certainly not been great (while many of them have been), although at the end of the day they will teach the material.

 

[cosmo kramer]

Teacher Pay scaled on how well they teach.

so if you end up with a bunch of low iq students in your class your salary gets fucking docked foir the whole year

 

[funkshen]

Why do we even have public education?

Parents should have the ~~~~freedom~~~~ to sell... err I mean, participate in a competitive bidding program to place their child into a corporate education scheme, where they'll learn what they need to know, not what some brewercrat tells them what to know.

 

[davidbarnesfan1]

intelligence doesn't exist and cannot be measured, everyone can become an astrophysicist. if you didn't it's because you had a bad teacher.

 

[cosmo kramer]

cULTURE

ACADEMIC VALUES

fREE WILL PERSISTENCE HARD WORK

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[davidbarnesfan1]

kinda makes me pissed off that teachers could be judged because of bad kids.

 

[cosmo kramer]

i met bob weissberg in america

he the professor of political science at the university of illinois and wrote a book called bad students not bad schools

he gave me an autographed copy with "To James: KEEP UP THE FIGHT! from bob" on the front page

its kind of funny how much more offensive he is irl when hes not expected to soften his incredibly un-pc views

 

[Phoenix Fury]

Ugh if you arent in the emotional space to learn you arent going to learn anything, if you want real learning to happen you dont make it painful, you make it exciting, engaging and interesting.

Authoritarian teaching styles are fucking terrible.

Ugh fuck me dead...

 

[davidbarnesfan1]

the way the asians on this site go on about how their parents force them to learn, it sounds like they have a pretty authoritarian teaching style, but asians are doing better than everyone else.

 

[Existential]

Imo they should be ~encouraged~ to stay but should be able to leave if they so desire.

But iirc the vast majority of people who want to leave feel this way due to prior negative school experiences, replace cunty teachers who have little care for students or passion for their job with good ones (easier said I know) and I think a lot of kids will be more inclined to stay later on.
Very few if any year 7-8s have made up their mind what they wanna do to a degree where they would feel comfortable leaving school and attempting to pursue it.

tbh year 11/12 is too important to waste time rehabilitating students like good teachers would try to do in primary school/junior high school. those disrupting the the lesson need to be weeded out and if they keep getting weeded out they need to have the option of leaving school. simple as that. although i take your second point - the leaving age should probaly be 15/16 (year 9/10). but i stand by what i said about nsw and their ad hoc curriculum and ad hoc teaching.

 

[Blastus]

eugenics is the solution

 

[Chemical Ali]

Ugh if you arent in the emotional space to learn you arent going to learn anything, if you want real learning to happen you dont make it painful, you make it exciting, engaging and interesting.

Authoritarian teaching styles are fucking terrible.

Ugh fuck me dead...

how are you going to engage a 15 year old leb/islander guy from auburn with ADHD and an 8 year old reading level to get excited and engaged in studying Hamlet, or coordinate geometry, or the role of women in world war 2? You can't.

 

[Chemical Ali]

Why do we even have public education?

Parents should have the ~~~~freedom~~~~ to sell... err I mean, participate in a competitive bidding program to place their child into a corporate education scheme, where they'll learn what they need to know, not what some brewercrat tells them what to know.

Poor? That's ok, Megacorp will offer your kids "schooling" for only $5 a week (that's all you can afford in this scenario); in return they'll be trained as corporate slaves, and "only" have to work at Megacorp for $2/hour for 10 years after they finish school.

Remember you're the parent, you sign the contract so it's all legal!

There should be public funded education but the content should be deregulated somehow...