The rise of far right-wing groups of Europe (5 Viewers)

[Lolsmith]

i 100% support right wing movement. seriously, political correctness has gone too far and really, alot of immigrants, those from northern africa and middle-east are abusing the system and most of them are causing lots of trouble in the society. its just like london riot, 95% african immigrants. they are not only a liability to the society, but for worse a trouble.
Immigration and multi-culturalism simply don't work in europe. sorry. especially during economic downturn.

explain why

 

[Lolsmith]

italians ftw. best europeans

why is this

 

[The Jinjo King]

why lolsmith

WHY

 

[Bendent]

why is this

food, guys' looks (imo), cultural aspects and relateness

 

[twistedrebel]

Also yes immigrants are a huge problem, an economic one. I'm not going to scapegoat the Greek economic crisis on them, but an immigrant gets a benefit from the government, as well as partaking in illegal activity which generates a form of income for them. Illegal immigrant crime lords in Athens make €200,000 to €500,000 a day in illegal wares, prostitution, child labor and drugs. So don't tell me that they aren't one of the roots of Greece's problems.

an illegal immigrant doesnt get government benefit, hence that point is moot.
Yes locals dont partake in any illegal activity at all.
Proof of generating in crime? Also if the the immigrants leave, locals will move in economics 101.

i 100% support right wing movement. seriously, political correctness has gone too far and really, alot of immigrants, those from northern africa and middle-east are abusing the system and most of them are causing lots of trouble in the society. its just like london riot, 95% african immigrants. they are not only a liability to the society, but for worse a trouble.
Immigration and multi-culturalism simply don't work in europe. sorry. especially during economic downturn.

actually the the UK doesnt have african migration, it more west indies migrants who were taken by the british from africa to work on sugar plantations in the west indies and have been in the british system for a few hundred years etc. Only know english and have adopted aglo saxon first and last names.

italians ftw. best europeans

Clearly when you have 1.8trillion debt. when the PPP GDP is 1.8trillion and nomial is 2.2 trillion.


Sure immigrants might be moving into europe, but lets be honest, the only reason they are moving there is because there is job which the lazy europeans wont do. Think about the greeks they do nothing, they just all sit at the beach and coffee shops. You retire at 55 with with you full salary paid for by the government until you die. Also lets not forget there is more greeks outside of greece in it. Many have migrated to places like germany, USA, Australia and many others for better jobs. Ironic when people move to greece for the same reason? Also there is many italians in the same boat moving the US (jersey shore), Australia and what not.

The migrants might be actually able to keep the PIIGS afloat by working below the minimum wage and keeping real wages down, because currently the labour markets are highly union based, demand this, and this etc. Migration has been happening since the start of time and its not like you will be able to stop it, the europeans also need migrants to keep the economies ticking due to low birth rates, or end up like Japan(even though it has some of the worlds largest coopartions). Without migrants the greeks and the italians would crash because unlike the japanese they dont actually produce anything.

 

[Bendent]

lol

 

[The Jinjo King]

you gotta love these contemptuous "we're doing the jobs YOU GUYS WONT DO" and "YOURE LAZY AND WOULDNT BE ANYTHING WITHOUT US! ANYTHING!" attitudes, really endearing yourselves guys

top it all off with the birth rate sucka punch canard

 

[The Jinjo King]

but really its funyn just listening to the anti-racists rush into this thread to give everybody else the supposedly lowdown 'realistic' matter-o-fact replies when in reality theyre just doing exactly the same thing as the other people

all of you pick up some books and read you cunts

 

[cheese_cheese]

but really its funyn just listening to the anti-racists rush into this thread to give everybody else the supposedly lowdown 'realistic' matter-o-fact replies when in reality theyre just doing exactly the same thing as the other people

all of you pick up some books and read you cunts

You should read and learn from the most read book in the World, the Holy Bible.

 

[twistedrebel]

cosmo i got a few friends of greek origin and 2-3 of my teachers were. They tell me everyone there does jack shit, you get 3 hour lunch breaks at work etc. The retire at like 55, oh and conscription to top it off. So every young person has to join police/army and who is going to pay the cost of training, wages etc? The government, no fucking wonder your going broke.

 

[The Jinjo King]

well anecdotes are never really a reliable source of information but there could be some validity to what you're saying

i just like to think if you've got a problem with your people you don't immediately just reach over for the IMPORT A NEW PEOPLE button you actually try and work to fix it

but i dunno im just old fashioned i guess

 

[Lolsmith]

you gotta love these contemptuous "we're doing the jobs YOU GUYS WONT DO" and "YOURE LAZY AND WOULDNT BE ANYTHING WITHOUT US! ANYTHING!" attitudes, really endearing yourselves guys

top it all off with the birth rate sucka punch canard

look I have anecdotal evidence that supports my point

I am 100% correct there is no other evidence

but really its funyn just listening to the anti-racists rush into this thread to give everybody else the supposedly lowdown 'realistic' matter-o-fact replies when in reality theyre just doing exactly the same thing as the other people

all of you pick up some books and read you cunts

okay so I'm going to ask what you define as "anti-racist"

 

[twistedrebel]

no they arent but here is some stats for you
Greece has a employment participation rate of 45% 4fucking5%. every worker has to atleast support 1 other person or the state does. (australia's 67% for comparison).
"Greece is a welfare state which provides a number of social services such as universal health care and pensions. In the 2012 budget, expenses for the welfare state (excluding education) stand at an estimated €22.487 billion[90] (€6.577 billion for pensions[90] and €15.910 billion for social security and health care expenses),[90] or 31.9% of the all state expenses."
"The public sector accounts for about 40% of total economic output"

like if that doesnt tell you you are fucked dont know what does.

 

[The Jinjo King]

okay so I'm going to ask what you define as "anti-racist"

anti-racists are people who are opposed to racism

duh

anti racist is also a term like 'cultural marxist' i like to throw around even when it might not actually have any genuine meaning in the context that i am using it in; it is a slur, just like 'racist', but i'll admit that

 

[twistedrebel]

hey cosmo tell me a book that can show the advantages of no immigration.

If you want to stop immigration, look at Japan.

 

[Lolsmith]

anti-racists are people who are opposed to racism

duh

anti racist is also a term like 'cultural marxist' i like to throw around even when it might not actually have any genuine meaning in the context that i am using it in; it is a slur, just like 'racist', but i'll admit that

well yes I mean would you call a libertarian an anti-racist

 

[The Jinjo King]

hey cosmo tell me a book that can show the advantages of no immigration.

If you want to stop immigration, look at Japan.

do you ever stop to consider that maybe your case of japan's supposed malaise (and your prescription for it) is simplistic and possibly flawed

my buddy wrote a massive thing about japan's economic 'issues' a long time ago it was the best thing i ever saw but it is gon enow

 

[The Jinjo King]

well yes I mean would you call a libertarian an anti-racist

so what are you objecting to exactly

 

[Bendent]

their country is too small anyway.

in my opinion, the reason of japan's malaise is because they are no longer worldly but stuck in their own countries with no contact with others. and u won't larn new things this way. this is a reason for downfall due to pride.

 

[twistedrebel]

do you ever stop to consider that maybe your case of japan's supposed malaise (and your prescription for it) is simplistic and possibly flawed

my buddy wrote a massive thing about japan's economic 'issues' a long time ago it was the best thing i ever saw but it is gon enow

link us to it. What is the biggest drag on Japan's economy? 95/100 economist will tell its lack of consumer spending, why is that? Because shrinking population. Basic sense m8