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Gillard was not shit at politics, she was very good at governing but very bad at campaigning her policies in the Australian electorate.
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I think Australians are getting sick of Mr Abbott's relentless negativity and hollow fear campaign. Australians want to see real positive solutions that can help this great nation of our become even greater.
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I watched Mr Bowen on 7.30 Report on the ABC yesterday. Chris Bowen, Treasurer of Australia says the company tax rate of thirty per cent will be reduced in the medium term under a Labor government. He also said that Labor was the party of the individuals,small business and industry. Furthermore, Chris Bowen said the Labor party should not sever its ties with the union movement but continue to build on such foundations.
Lolsmith
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"in the medium term"
meaning "we say we're gonna do it until everyone forgets about this interview"
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is labor really gonna offer that though
TheGreatest99.95
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What negativity? Abbott has been staying out of the press for ages, hes been quiet for a while now. Hes letting rudd take the limelight until he f*cks up
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Just saw a liberal party ad. Looks pretty much identical to the ones they ran in 2010
Still entirely factual.
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Ummm, no. I think you are fairly deluded if you think either side of politics has "factual" ads. The liberal party ads are just a list of 'promises' and slogans
Sorry. I was talking about one specific ad.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=...top_uri=/watch?v=O8uhdI8p-bk&feature=youtu.be
Lolsmith
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45000 boat people doesn't sound very accurate
Rudd's just all about publicity at the moment.. "abolishing the carbon tax" - yeah right, look what happened last time your party said that. It's just a lie to convince voters into a false sense of security with the 'popular PM', and take the limelight away from the party itself. Even now as we speak he's jetsetted off to PNG to 'discuss' with their leader, discuss what?!
It's not that I dislike Rudd, because I much prefer him over Abbot. I'm just frankly sick of the lies, bullshit and false policies that the Labor government has consistently done time and time again.
It would have been better if the Liberal's scrapped Abbot (much earlier than now however, that'd be a political disaster), surefire win. Keep the NBN (Australia needs it!) and stop the boats (which the liberals have proved far better at). Pretty simple.
It's not that I dislike Rudd, because I much prefer him over Abbot. I'm just frankly sick of the lies, bullshit and false policies that the Labor government has consistently done time and time again.
It would have been better if the Liberal's scrapped Abbot (much earlier than now however, that'd be a political disaster), surefire win. Keep the NBN (Australia needs it!) and stop the boats (which the liberals have proved far better at). Pretty simple.
A) Labor
B) Asylum Seekers, Carbon Tax (ETS), Economic management (though it's already excellent) and managing the transition from mining to non mining, healthcare, schools & gonski, transport and job security.
C) Gillard
B) Asylum Seekers, Carbon Tax (ETS), Economic management (though it's already excellent) and managing the transition from mining to non mining, healthcare, schools & gonski, transport and job security.
C) Gillard
Yeah. Ballpark figure at the time of the ad because boats are coming everyday. Impossible to give exact figure.
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john howard: 'GST would never become part of Liberal Party policy' ??? welcome to the real world buddy, if you put your preferred party up on a pedestal, you're going to cop a mouthful of disappointment. politicians lie, what can ya do? to suggest it isn't a bipartisan issue is laughable.
considering you're doing your hsc in 2013, i'm guessing you didn't get to experience the years of tony pbuh abbott as health minister. he was full of shit too. big surprise.
and how exactly does abbott plan to stop the boats? sending them back into indonesian waters? we already know that the common tactic of boat-people is to sail into australian waters, destroy their engine, take on water and call an SOS - they can't send that boat back to its point of origin. never mind the fact that the indonesians have already said they would not accept these boats and it could potentially cause a diplomatic stir with our nearest neighbour with a population of 240 million. but abbott keeps on just repeating his market-tested talking point of 'we'll stop the boats, kevin rudd/julia gillard are people smugglers best friends'.
i think the thing that disgusts me most about abbott is that he treats the electorate as a whole as a mentally challenged child who can only grasp one-line zingers instead of actual policy discussion.
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Rudd puts Labor on level pegging. Source; Australian Financial Review.
The outcome of the 2013 federal election is too close to call, maybe slightly with Labor in front. Labor is storming back into contention under the leadership of Prime Minister Kevin Rudd to draw even with the Coalition. The Nielsen poll shows that for the first time in three years, and 31 Nielsen polls, Labor is no longer behind the Coalition but tied at 50 per cent of the 2 party preferred vote. Rudd outstrips Opposition Leader Tony Abbott on approval, preferred PM, trust, strength and economic competency. There is now a 7 per cent swing to the Labor government since the last Nielsen poll. I expect that Rudd will consolidate his power and increase the two party vote by another two per cent swing in favour of the federal government.
The outcome of the 2013 federal election is too close to call, maybe slightly with Labor in front. Labor is storming back into contention under the leadership of Prime Minister Kevin Rudd to draw even with the Coalition. The Nielsen poll shows that for the first time in three years, and 31 Nielsen polls, Labor is no longer behind the Coalition but tied at 50 per cent of the 2 party preferred vote. Rudd outstrips Opposition Leader Tony Abbott on approval, preferred PM, trust, strength and economic competency. There is now a 7 per cent swing to the Labor government since the last Nielsen poll. I expect that Rudd will consolidate his power and increase the two party vote by another two per cent swing in favour of the federal government.
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Do you mean unlike every other elected party that operates under the premise that every individual doesn't know what's best for them in their own lives?
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oh no, I agree with you there, although he does take the gold medal in the dumbing down olympics
Politicians are entitled to change their positions. Absolutely. But on an issue as big as a tax if you do change your position , you have to put your new position to the Australian people. That's what Howard did in 1998 but you didn't hear that from Gillard did you? Nope. In all fairness the Greens forced her but she didn't have to concede because Greens aren't likely to support the Coalition are they?
Maybe you can give us some examples of Abbott's performance during his tenure as health minister? Besides from his occasional gaffes I can't think how he's full of shit.