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Hey everyone!

Just wanna ask....which modules to you recommend memorizing most of ?

I say memorize module A and C?

but im really scared on module B (im doing speeches; I think I did noel pearson and anwar sadat...CBF checking) ......looking through all the past HSC questions for module B, they tend to specifically ask for one speech.....how do I conquer this?
 

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Try to memorise evidence (ie quotes techniques), but not a complete essay.

Write a generic essay for ur modules + AOS and try to adapt that to as many essay questions etc. so u know how to apply ur knowledge. Learn ur essay, but learn ur texts really well with the prescriptions at hand. Don't memorise an essay word for word..... That's what works for me.
Also, mod B is probs the hardest and might need the most time to prepare for... Know a couple of the speeches well (I don't know how many there are) and the others mediocre. Generally, they tend to set one of the 'main ones' that u have to refer to... In orwells essays, it's been why I write and notes on nationalism which are 2 of the most popular/important so people tend to specialise in them.... Try to see which of the speeches are most significant and learn them I guess, as well as knowing the basics behind the others.
 
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You WILL crumble in the exam. i REPEAT. DO NOT MEMORIZE AN ESSAY. just remember the quotes and stuff though. people have crumbled in exam conditions. the english paper is a mind fuck dude..
 

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Hey everyone!

Just wanna ask....which modules to you recommend memorizing most of ?

I say memorize module A and C?

but im really scared on module B (im doing speeches; I think I did noel pearson and anwar sadat...CBF checking) ......looking through all the past HSC questions for module B, they tend to specifically ask for one speech.....how do I conquer this?
If you have the time, memorise them.

Writing it on the spot will be as good as your first draft of a pre-prepared essay.
 

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i memorise my essays so i odnt forget how to structure my techniques and stuff like that.
Mate, i couldn't help but notice, you have an atar of 2012..are you repeating by any chance?

100th post! <3
 

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Memorise an essay for AOS, Mod A/B/C.

For Mod B for Speeches - prepare an essay with 2/3 speeches, and prepare quotes/techniques for the rest, but make sure you can thematically and conceptually link the other speeches to the ones in your memorised essay.
 

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Take into account that other texts within the module are of much greater length and a set of 2 or 3 speeches.

A student undertaking Module B is expected to have learnt ALL the speeches and must be able to write a response on any of those speeches if specifically specified. That's essentially the trade off in having a set of texts which is shorter in length. Otherwise, no English coordinator would choose any other text but the speeches.
 

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Try to memorise evidence (ie quotes techniques), but not a complete essay.

Write a generic essay for ur modules + AOS and try to adapt that to as many essay questions etc. so u know how to apply ur knowledge. Learn ur essay, but learn ur texts really well with the prescriptions at hand. Don't memorise an essay word for word..... That's what works for me.
Also, mod B is probs the hardest and might need the most time to prepare for... Know a couple of the speeches well (I don't know how many there are) and the others mediocre. Generally, they tend to set one of the 'main ones' that u have to refer to... In orwells essays, it's been why I write and notes on nationalism which are 2 of the most popular/important so people tend to specialise in them.... Try to see which of the speeches are most significant and learn them I guess, as well as knowing the basics behind the others.
Adapting is the key, you need some solids (made up quotes and analysis) paragraphs and keep linking it in with the question.
 

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You WILL crumble in the exam. i REPEAT. DO NOT MEMORIZE AN ESSAY. just remember the quotes and stuff though. people have crumbled in exam conditions. the english paper is a mind fuck dude..
True, but you need more than just the quotes. HSC English (unfortunately) forces you to memorise a lot and you just have to play the game I guess. From experience people atleast 8 out of 10 people who received band 6s in my school memorised significant amounts of their paragraphs and analysis.
 

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It depends on how adaptable your essay is and the scope of the rubric it explores. If you're merely talking about desire to belong the whole essay and not linking it into identity or time (i.e. the topics they can ask us on), you will do poorly. Generic essays do work, only if they're made correctly. Yes, in more than a few cases, this means that you have to be meticulous.
 

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Exactly what other people said, if you memorize an essay, you are doing yourself a disservice. The whole point of English is to engage with a text so that you may draw out themes relevant to the question. It is NOT like many people seem to think, a test of how well you can remember an essay and regurgitate it. I would even go as far as to say that if all you have up your sleeve is a memorized essay, you are not prepared adequately for your English examination.
 

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Exactly what other people said, if you memorize an essay, you are doing yourself a disservice. The whole point of English is to engage with a text so that you may draw out themes relevant to the question. It is NOT like many people seem to think, a test of how well you can remember an essay and regurgitate it. I would even go as far as to say that if all you have up your sleeve is a memorized essay, you are not prepared adequately for your English examination.
It doesn't matter what the point is, it matters how to get the marks. Sure you can do well without memorising, but to say memorising is a disservice is beyond a joke.
 

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It doesn't matter what the point is, it matters how to get the marks. Sure you can do well without memorising, but to say memorising is a disservice is beyond a joke.
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Exactly what other people said, if you memorize an essay, you are doing yourself a disservice. The whole point of English is to engage with a text so that you may draw out themes relevant to the question. It is NOT like many people seem to think, a test of how well you can remember an essay and regurgitate it. I would even go as far as to say that if all you have up your sleeve is a memorized essay, you are not prepared adequately for your English examination.
Woah. This is beyond the scope of the topic. In constructing a generic essay, one is engaging with the text, supporting notions of belonging (identity, time etc...) with textual evidence. To say that it's a disservice is unreasonable because it allows the student to generate ideas which could help them in the exam, ideas relative to belonging that simply can't be derived during the exam time because English is one of those subjects where you need practically every second to write. You can't just sit there for 10 minutes thinking of what quote to use, or trying to think of how identity relates to a certain aspect of belonging. A generic essay allows you to have the 'meat' of your essay, altering the topic/concluding sentence and the thesis to accord with the question.

The bold, however, I will agree with ONLY because they could specify a poem which you haven't prepared for i.e. it wasn't apart of the original generic, which hence makes you unprepared.

If memorizing an essay is a disservice, then sure, the state ranking kid sure did a great disservice to himself by memorizing the essay and topping the state...
 

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Woah. This is beyond the scope of the topic. In constructing a generic essay, one is engaging with the text, supporting notions of belonging (identity, time etc...) with textual evidence. To say that it's a disservice is unreasonable because it allows the student to generate ideas which could help them in the exam, ideas relative to belonging that simply can't be derived during the exam time because English is one of those subjects where you need practically every second to write. You can't just sit there for 10 minutes thinking of what quote to use, or trying to think of how identity relates to a certain aspect of belonging. A generic essay allows you to have the 'meat' of your essay, altering the topic/concluding sentence and the thesis to accord with the question.
And to add to that, writing on the spot lacks complexity compared to an essay that has been refined and edited countless times. When you write it on the spot, it will be no better than your first draft of a prepared essay.
 

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lol well sure preparing an essay isnt the point of the course, but ppl gotta do what they can to get the marks in the easiest possible. there is no point in arguing that it takes away the beauty of english, because the whole state is forced to do the f**king course. it's not like we have the option to drop the damn subject. so we must as well do what we can in the least time to get the marks.
 

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Memorise themes and quotes.

That is all.
 

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