Announcement from BOSTES/NESA - 2019 Syllabus Changes for Calculus courses (1 Viewer)

tywebb · Sep 5, 2024

i found out the new syllabus is supposed to come out this term which means within the next 3 weeks

whether it will or not is another matter

https://www.nsw.gov.au/education-an...tegies-and-reforms/curriculum-reform/timeline just says “2024” so i don’t know if it really will be released in the next 3 weeks but it might happen

tywebb · Sep 7, 2024

i found out more info.

Release is due for near the end of term 3 but subject to Minister of Education's approval - so that is the only thing which may make it take longer.

tywebb · Sep 18, 2024

in 2027 there will no longer be common questions in the standard and advanced hsc exams

tywebb · Sep 18, 2024

new syllabuses released

e2: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-extension-2-11-12-2024/overview

e1: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-extension-1-11-12-2024/overview

a: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-advanced-11-12-2024/overview

s: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-standard-11-12-2024/overview

ls: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-life-skills-11-12-2024/overview

kkk579 · Sep 18, 2024

tywebb said:
new syllabuses released

e2: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-extension-2-11-12-2024/overview

e1: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-extension-1-11-12-2024/overview

a: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-advanced-11-12-2024/overview

s: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-standard-11-12-2024/overview

ls: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-life-skills-11-12-2024/overview

These new syllabuses start from 2026 right?

ajtho777 · Sep 18, 2024

tywebb said:
new syllabuses released

e2: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-extension-2-11-12-2024/overview

e1: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-extension-1-11-12-2024/overview

a: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-advanced-11-12-2024/overview

s: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-standard-11-12-2024/overview

ls: https://curriculum.nsw.edu.au/learning-areas/mathematics/mathematics-life-skills-11-12-2024/overview

They look the same? I thought it was going to change?

Scrambled · Sep 18, 2024

ajtho777 said:
They look the same? I thought it was going to change?

uh I skimmed through the prelim stuff and no pigeon hole at least? [hating pigeons rn]

tywebb · Sep 19, 2024

apparently euler’s formula has been deleted from the extension 2

do you think that’s a good move, or do you think it is a backward step?

tywebb · Sep 19, 2024

this was in the draft and there was no indication it would be deleted - most people assumed this would remain because the current syllabus and the draft is an improvement on the previous syllabus because in the old one it wasn't there

nesa have a page on the new syllabus at https://educationstandards.nsw.edu....reas/stage-6-mathematics/syllabus-development

in there is the engagement report https://educationstandards.nsw.edu....yllabus-enagement-report-2024.pdf?MOD=AJPERES

and nowhere in that did they say they acted on advice to remove euler's formula

so who made the decision to remove it and why remains a mystery

tywebb · Sep 19, 2024

So will textbooks remove it? Maybe.

However consider this, even though the old syllabus didn't have it, in post #222 the eagle-eyed would notice Coroneos' 1966 book had it anyway:

so it's kind of been around since the beginning, so some textbooks may decide to keep it in regardless.

tywebb · Sep 19, 2024

even before the hsc started in 1966, in leaving certificate, i have a Coroneos book even older called "A Leaving Certificate Mathematics I Honours Course", 1963 in which he had these 2 questions, and for those lucky enough to have this book, it is on pages 165, 173

tywebb · Sep 20, 2024

tywebb said:
who made the decision to remove it and why remains a mystery

nothing from nesa says anything about it.

however this was posted recently “The rationale for this is that its use case was not much different from cos x + i sin x anyway, but rather it created some problems whereby students (and teachers alike) naively misunderstood the behaviour of complex valued functions, such as the complex logarithm, complex trigonometric functions, and complex valued differential/integral calculus. These ideas are best reserved for a more qualified and careful treatment at university in a Complex Analysis course. I guess you can say that NESA cut this branch” : https://www.ringomok.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/2026_ext2_syllabus_comments.pdf

but it seems yet another excuse for dumbing down based on the idea some teachers are stupid therefore all teachers are stupid and so all the stupid teachers and their stupid students are going to get a dumbed down syllabus. do you like that logic? i don’t.

tywebb · Sep 20, 2024

there are files for advanced and extension 1 too here

https://www.ringomok.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/2026_adv_syllabus_comments.pdf

https://www.ringomok.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/2026_ext1_syllabus_comments.pdf

don’t know if he make one for standard, but i think the steve howard one will include the standard, but it is not on his website yet

tywebb · Sep 20, 2024

“its use case was not much different from cos x + i sin x” is also completely wrong

how about

multiplying and dividing complex numbers much more easily

proving de Moivre’s theorem in 1 line

proving compound angle formulae more easily

finding roots of complex numbers in a much more elegant way

tywebb · Sep 20, 2024

There could be a simpler explanation rather than the "better wait til uni"-type elitism.

maybe they just wanted to reduce content, so thought well what if we remove euler's formula, that won't cause too much damage will it? one less thing to do, and although it causes a slight amount of damage, it is not irredeemable damage.

tywebb · Oct 17, 2024

investigative tasks are conspicuous by their absence. it is no longer required in the new syllabus.

to many that is a really good change. such assignments may be better suited in other subjects, it no longer needs to be a thing in maths.

schools can still choose to do it if they want.

but it is something that looms rather large in the ib and several ib maths teachers have said to me that it is a pain in the a**.

nesa finally took their advice.

justletmespeak123 · Oct 17, 2024

tywebb said:
There will be an announcement from BOSTES next Wednesday at the MANSW conference involving a significant change to the calculus courses.

There is no official word yet about what this might be.

But there is a rumour going around that it will be a formula sheet in HSC exams for ALL the courses (just like General get now).

I'll let you know more later.

the formula sheet become shit for integration. But I like the formulas for differentiation.

justletmespeak123 · Oct 17, 2024

tywebb said:
investigative tasks are conspicuous by their absence. it is no longer required in the new syllabus.

to many that is a really good change. such assignments may be better suited in other subjects, it no longer needs to be a thing in maths.

schools can still choose to do it if they want.

but it is something that looms rather large in the ib and several ib maths teachers have said to me that it is a pain in the a**.

nesa finally took their advice.

IB is a fucking shit course. A Levels is the best high school education examination since its all exams. IB is like some philosophy bullshit, we shouldn't follow these idiots.

justletmespeak123 · Oct 17, 2024

tywebb said:
The criticism is not enough time.

So there is time for what? The other crap they do to make up the units? That's not what they want to do!

Reverse the decision in 1980 to make 4 unit a 1 year course! Go back to the 2 year course.

There are plenty of year 10 students quite capable of doing extension 2 in year 11.

Here are the contents sections of coroneos level 1 (the 2-year course version of extension 2)

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These came out in 1966. Dumbing down happened ever since.

How far behind does Australia need to get before we send ALL our kids overseas to get a proper education?

The woke education overlords are here to blame; they want to dumb down subjects for "inclusivity" since this was probably dominated by a specific gender.

tywebb · Oct 17, 2024

justletmespeak123 said:
IB is a fucking shit course. A Levels is the best high school education examination since its all exams. IB is like some philosophy bullshit, we shouldn't follow these idiots.

well i wouldn't write them off so completely. some of their maths books are actually pretty good.

for example they take the vectors topic much further which is better than the nsw syllabus half-baked approach.

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