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well listen dagwoman, your wasting your time debating on this subject, because your not learning anything, all of you keep sticking to your opinions and are attacking and backfiring everything i say. My whole point was to "stop" having debates, and stop saying i'm ranting, because you are...

2) A hypothetical: If we provisionally accept that god exists, how do we know that the christian faith is the correct one (given how many others exist). Similarly, how do we know anything about god, e.g. how do we know that god is benevolent etc. look, maybe you should read the previous posts...

Often in this thread theists (and atheists) have come in, making ascertions about big bang theory and often missing the mark imho... so Polomolo, what do you think 'big bang theory' is? simply, in the beginning God, spoke and he created the heavens and the earth. It may have been in the same...

X [GOD] is true because I believe it to be so This is how it works, you will recieve when you believe. why do you expect to believe stuff after they have been logical for you, and they have physically seen you. as i have read from many posts in this thread, even if God comes, i really do not...

As you have pointed out, your assertions are not based on logic/evidence. the big bang is logic?

Well my heart is open but he doesn't seem interested in showing me the evidence, as you said he would. trust me it takes much more than just opening your heart, you have to accept him in, he's not a robber to just come in your house and eat your food. you accept him in and you prepare a meal...

So the only way for me to get evidence of God's existance so I can believe, is to already believe? this is what you call twisting things around. No, when you Believe in God, You will Feel His Presence In Your Life!, But if you Dont believe in Jesus, and havn't accepted him in your life, then...

I am open to the possibility of god existing, with all my heart. I would sincerely love to believe in God, the door is open but jesus isn't interested which geek made you believe that Jesus is not interested. HE FRIGIN DIED FOR YOU!

Quote: your just being short minded, because you haven't actually experienced the power of God, you will feel it just seconds before you die. How convenient. This is not what they do in a debate 'make jokes out of everything the other side says', your just being arrogant and want to comment...

Anyway, I think this discussion can end here before I go to work. I NEED evidence You're unwilling to provide/don't believe in evidence See the top point. evidence is right there in your heart when you open the door. see if there were a 1000 steps before you and God, God will take the 999, and...

And if I don't? then simply dont ask anymore, because you are not believing anything i say, i'll tell you the truth, every part of what i'm saying comes from the same source of facts available which is the bible. so decide now, if you are going to beleive what the bible says, then i suggest...

Also, what does atheism have to do with 'worldly pleasures' - In christianity you get the same as what atheists do, so I don't really see your point. Atheism means , not believing in that there is a God, the whole purpose of our lives is to gloryfy God, and if we are not doing that then we are...

So there's no other way? Someone can't simply have believed in God, then at a point in their life analysed it some more and come to the conclusion that their religion is false? It MUST be because of 'worldly pleasures' ? Also, what does atheism have to do with 'worldly pleasures' - In...

ou think I'm wrong, I think you're wrong, we're discussing the issue at hand - this is called debate. no no, this is more than a debate. this is about your life and where you should be at right now, instead of where you stand, i'm trying to help you out of what your into. its like your falling...

I'm sorry, but even if you for whatever reason disregard the need for evidence - In your own mind, when making decisions, you are using your own form of logic, relying on your own 'evidence'. There's no other way around it. i am not using my own evidence nor am i using my own logic. logic is...

That's cool. You know there are christian preachers that have become atheists too? These stories mean very little. yes people can turn away from the Lord when worldly pleasures overpower their desires, that way the start putting things before God and this way they realize their mistake, but...

Wait... there's no rules/regulations in christianity? I'm afraid there are. Also, from where I stand christianity is a religion, so unfortunately that doesn't answer my question - Why should I devote time to learning about your religion over religion X when they're going to tell me the exact...

We have no evidence, nor can we have evidence, of what happens when we die. your twisting it around and around, i really feel sorry for you because your corrupting your own mind, this is not a game, there's going to be a day to come where you will die, and when it comes you will say 'Ohhhh i...

Which country is this? Also regardless of your own experience very, very few people from predominately muslim countries end up becomming christians - thus my point stands this country is syria. and just recently Egypt has had a Sheikh, which is the man who stands and preaches the muslim faith...

I'm not aware of maaany things about maaany religions - We only have limited time, I see no reason to devote myself to learning one religion to a great extent over another. yeh mate the only reason is that christianity is not a religion, nor is it something that you have to follow with rules...