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I have a question on a study guide:

How has the Austalian cultural environment influenced education?

and my answer:

After the withdrawal of state aid to denomination schools in 1880 the Protestant denominations did not continue with primary schools but established private secondry schools.

Catholics closed ranks against the dominant secular and Protestant cultures present in Australian society. They had little to do with Australians who were not Catholic.

Does this answer the question? I have my doubts, but I am not very good at Religion so...
 

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Modern Hot Chic said:
I have a question on a study guide:

How has the Austalian cultural environment influenced education?

and my answer:

After the withdrawal of state aid to denomination schools in 1880 the Protestant denominations did not continue with primary schools but established private secondry schools.

Catholics closed ranks against the dominant secular and Protestant cultures present in Australian society. They had little to do with Australians who were not Catholic.

Does this answer the question? I have my doubts, but I am not very good at Religion so...
needs to be a little more specific as you have just scratched the surface. The key is in the question "Australian Cultural Environment" You should define what you mean by this (somehow) and then appply this (with relevant examples) to the question.
Plus, you really shouldnt be talking about <1900 as the unit is "The influence of religion in Australia 1901-present" .: prior to 1900 doesnt "exist in the context of the question as such (ie you wouldnt mention it in any detail)

BTW..its a stupid question so dont be too fazed if you dont get it. The Australian cultural stuff (from the syllabus) doesnt really link in with education at all :)
 

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Just a small point, I dont think that Protestants established private secondary schools but rather continued them after the withdrawal of State Aid, although im not 100% sure - snapperhead please confirm.

But yeh basically the cultural environment has changed over time and with it has come different influences on education. Immigration weakened the Irish domination on the Catholic church that stopped sectarianism to a certain extent that helped in granting state Aid. Also the increasing number of people migrating showed the importance of private schools in being able to cater for the education of the increasing numbers. Theres also the Goulburn strike you could talk about. These factors plus more influenced education which allowed for both secular education and education with a religious curriculum
 
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acmilan1987 said:
Just a small point, I dont think that Protestants established private secondary schools but rather continued them after the withdrawal of State Aid, although im not 100% sure - snapperhead please confirm.

But yeh basically the cultural environment has changed over time and with it has come different influences on education. Immigration weakened the Irish domination on the Catholic church that stopped sectarianism to a certain extent that helped in granting state Aid. Also the increasing number of people migrating showed the importance of private schools in being able to cater for the education of the increasing numbers. Theres also the Goulburn strike you could talk about. These factors plus more influenced education which allowed for both secular education and education with a religious curriculum
thats correct...just continued what they were doing...public instruction act didnt really worry the (because of the Church Acts etc)m. It was the Catholics that were impacted upon because of the public instruction act. BTW...immigration didnt have too serious an impact on the Irishness of the Catholic Church until the 1970's/1980's...refer to the conscription issues/mannix/the labor debates/anti-communism/sectarianism etc. In the context of education, they dont really match up historically (stupid syllabus!)

You could go the immigration route (good idea AC!! I forgot the SOR back up "when in doubt, changing patterns of migration") but in the context of the question and the syllabus, are these changes due to Australias cultural environment or political environment? (which in reality are joined but syllabus wise are separate!)
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actually, you could argue sectarianism and secularisation in the context of the modern educational debates- what we are voting on today- with Labor and Liberal trying to woo the education vote....in the context of teacher (verbal) bashing and the general pasting education gets in the media, this is a cultural influence/aspect....esp. if you take it from a non-Catholic schools POV (not just Protestant but Jewish and Muslim as well....)
 
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OK, would this be a good response?

Through the firm beliefs of the Protestants and Catholics, many denominational schools have been established to teach according to the faith they belong to. Today these schools help to educate at least 20% of Australia's students, with the number gradually increasing.
 

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my advice to you is that if you want to get perfect answers, band 6 material, don't say "many denominational schools"
what you should do is actually list some types of schools, Protestants, Catholics, Methodist, Presbyterian are some of the faiths with established schools teaching religious belief along side modern education requirements...

you have to be specific to show that you know your stuff
 
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This OK?

Protestants, Catholics, Methodist, Presbyterian are some of the faiths with established schools teaching religious belief along side modern education requirements. These schools were assisted in their establishment through the firm beliefs of those belonging to the Religious Order that Religion and life coincided and thus should be taught to students concurrently. This belief is evident to be still held by some today. This can be seen through recent studies which show that schools of the religious sort are educating up to at least 20% of Australian students, with the number gradually increasing.
 

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drop the "protestants' if listing protestant variants

Maybe something along the lines of "Groups from both the Catholic and Protestant churches eg Presbyterian and Methodist...."

IMO, Protestant and Catholic would suffice as it shows an assumed knowledge of what makes up Christianity (technically should add Orthodox to that as well but...)

You dont have to list everything as the marking criteria doesnt/wont ever (according to the BOS) specify numbers/exact details etc...markers are "told" to assume a little as well if you provide a good enough framework


+ I thought it was 30% not 20%!!
 

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but what about the other religious schools??
ie in the context of % in govt and non-govt schools.....
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Tenille said:
thats a different stat
This can be seen through recent studies which show that schools of the religious sort are educating up to at least 20% of Australian students, with the number gradually increasing.
not what modern was asking/stating!!
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You cant win so give up OK!
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Eh? what was the question?

She said: This can be seen through recent studies which show that schools of the religious sort are educating up to at least 20% of Australian students, with the number gradually increasing.

and then you said:+ I thought it was 30% not 20%!!

so then i said: 20% is just catholic schools according to my notes

im not actually reading bloody syupid threads
 

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Tenille said:
Eh? what was the question?

She said: This can be seen through recent studies which show that schools of the religious sort are educating up to at least 20% of Australian students, with the number gradually increasing.

and then you said:+ I thought it was 30% not 20%!!

so then i said: 20% is just catholic schools according to my notes

im not actually reading bloody syupid threads
blah blah blah..you were wrong just admit it!
;p
 

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isnt the question whats the stat of non denominational schools in nsw? pfft leaves forum for a few more weeks have fun
 

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