Donne (1 Viewer)

[smegger_em]

I was just wondering if anyone has some good (ie easy to read and not in a musty funny smelling old book) critical material on Donne?
I would also be interested to hear if anyone has actually enjoyed this poetry...

 

[Divya]

donne- criticism

I didnt like any of the religious poetry- but the love poetry (i.e. valediction) was realli good.
Our skool had studied criticism from:
- Stevie Davies (feminist- Sunne Rising),
- Helen Gardner (Batter- psycho),
- Elaine Hobby (feminist +psychoanalytical - Sunne Rising, psycho-Valediction) and
- Stanley Fish (he jus raved on abt donne being a looser)

they were all pretty good.
I understand the problem with how the criticisms of Donne's poetry are harder to understand that the poetry itself (and we actualli went thru a criticism which I remember "criticised" the criticisms of being too "technical").

 

[smegger_em]

Thanks for all that, i just find critical material to be a little over-whelming at times. I just sometimes wonder about all the people who find homo-erotic or marxist or exestentionalist or post-modern refernces in EVERY single poem from nursery ryhmes to limricks to epic ballards..

 

[Jacinta]

Em if u do find anything useful i would love for u to show me!!! (that's about as subtle as i get) I have just some of the stuff from my class and i haven't gotten anything really outstanding or interesting. It's actually all a bit pointless and boring.

 

[tweakin]

my playes last scene

Donne suxxxx.
Anyone got any info on the holy sonnet "my playes last scene"?
THanks

 

[pulse]

meh meh meh meh

emily quilty and mac have, i would think, about 400 pages of photocopied stuff from critics and donne. why dont you just borrow form their private stash.....they will lend it to you

 

[smegger_em]

Becuase they didnt bother referncing it!!
You know when we were given some in class and had to go through it, they put the publisher and everything on it but for got the AUTHOR. They are stupider then me and its very frustrating
And also cause i am lazy and wanted people to help me so it took less time

 

[pulse]

meh

i bet mrs mac let quilty handle the referencing

 

[smegger_em]

meh is not a word

would have keept her entertained and out of there hair for a few weeks/months

 

[pulse]

meh

anyhow...id like to say that i spent 4 hours today doing research for the donne section of the exam and i do like donne's poems!

 

[smegger_em]

What do you liek about them? I wish i could like them, its would make it easier. But Donnes the one thing in english i feel prepared for at the moment

 

[Minai]

they are pretty intelligent when u think about it
but way too influenced by his context and personal views and religion

but hey, thats the point rite....

 

[pulse]

meh

anyone 1000 times smarter than me has my respect

 

[ice_cream]

how can you like donne's poems!!??
how many critics are we expected to know? cos have limited information on critics..and that 400pg stuff that some1 mentioned..i don't think i even have 10% of it....

 

[Big Willy]

I got plenty of crap on Donne, but they are all notes and photcopies from the teacher

I think you should relax with the critics (ie dont get stressed by them). From what i understand, you just need a stance from each critic, and the historical context from which they are from. (correct me if i'm wrong).

The aim of this module is 'critical study of text', and hence, you should focus on how his ideas are praised/criticsed by urself and other criticts (3 is enough). Dont mix 'ideas' with textual integrity (eg techniques, devices and shit like that)