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Hi, would someone be able to give me a predicted atar from my cumulative ranks?

English AdvancedMathematics AdvancedMathematics Extension 1PhysicsChinese ContinuersChinese Extension
My rank10/15012/8038/12025/1001/151/5
School b6s50408025103

I know my ranks aren't amazing, but do you think a 99.7 possible?
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Hi, would someone be able to give me a predicted atar from my cumulative ranks?

English AdvancedMathematics AdvancedMathematics Extension 1PhysicsChinese ContinuersChinese Extension
My rank10/15012/8038/12025/1001/151/5
School b6s50408025103

I know my ranks aren't amazing, but do you think a 99.7 possible?
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having marks would probably help! sometimes the top are close together in marks and sometimes they're far away - also, what roughly what rank is your school? (probably very good given the b6 numbers but I'm not sure, somebody might want that info)

you're def on track to a >99, can't say anything beyond that though without marks though sorry, marks I feel are more important leading towards those higher ATARs
 

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I agree with what killer queen said. I played around on ATAR compass a little, and I found that with the below marks, it gave an estimated ATAR of 99.7.

Of course, these marks are pretty idealistic and it might take some luck to get them, but they don't seem entirely unreasonable given your ranks and numbers of b6s - however, it is worthwhile to note that ATAR compass isn't super accurate and tends to overestimate ATARs. Your best bet is to absolutely maximise your chinese cont + ext marks, as you're ranked 1st. Your marks for the other subjects aren't fully in your control, because it depends on the performance of your cohort. Good luck! I'm guessing you're aiming for USyd dentistry?

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NOOOOO ATAR COMPASS OVERESTIMATES ATARS? NOOOOOO MY EGO /j

but wow the dedication of playing around on ATAR compass, I was thinking of that but didn't bother

I'd like to add that since physics has to count to your ATAR and you're on the edge (it seems) of the b6 range (would be easier to know with marks), maybe working on that will also shore up your chances of that elusive ATAR
 

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having marks would probably help! sometimes the top are close together in marks and sometimes they're far away - also, what roughly what rank is your school? (probably very good given the b6 numbers but I'm not sure, somebody might want that info)

you're def on track to a >99, can't say anything beyond that though without marks though sorry, marks I feel are more important leading towards those higher ATARs
hi thanks for the reply! what do you mean by marks, like the marks for each assessment or like the internal overall mark? bcs im not entirely sure what my overall mark is yet... my school rank is top normally top 10!

also sorry idk how to do the quote thing so im not sure if this message turned out right
 

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ohhh i see thank you!

i also didn't know atar compass over-estimates atars :eek:

when i inputted the marks from my predicted atar given by my school at the end of semester 1 into atar compass, it was lower than the predicted atar they gave me...

but yes i am aiming for usyd dent!!

I agree with what killer queen said. I played around on ATAR compass a little, and I found that with the below marks, it gave an estimated ATAR of 99.7.

Of course, these marks are pretty idealistic and it might take some luck to get them, but they don't seem entirely unreasonable given your ranks and numbers of b6s - however, it is worthwhile to note that ATAR compass isn't super accurate and tends to overestimate ATARs. Your best bet is to absolutely maximise your chinese cont + ext marks, as you're ranked 1st. Your marks for the other subjects aren't fully in your control, because it depends on the performance of your cohort. Good luck! I'm guessing you're aiming for USyd dentistry?
 

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hi thanks for the reply! what do you mean by marks, like the marks for each assessment or like the internal overall mark? bcs im not entirely sure what my overall mark is yet... my school rank is top normally top 10!

also sorry idk how to do the quote thing so im not sure if this message turned out right
top ten school wow
 

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ohhh i see thank you!

i also didn't know atar compass over-estimates atars :eek:

when i inputted the marks from my predicted atar given by my school at the end of semester 1 into atar compass, it was lower than the predicted atar they gave me...

but yes i am aiming for usyd dent!!
u seem smart what are your study methods for math/english?
 

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hi thanks for the reply! what do you mean by marks, like the marks for each assessment or like the internal overall mark? bcs im not entirely sure what my overall mark is yet... my school rank is top normally top 10!

also sorry idk how to do the quote thing so im not sure if this message turned out right
you're doing the quote thing very well, dw! (ignore any of the trollers that may later decide to pitch in, we ignore them haha)

whichever you have access to! in my school we never get the internal overall mark, so just in assessments is fine - your school likely has harder assessments but just saying the marks makes it easier to gauge, because though past b6s certainly help, every cohort is different (my school has swings haha)

when i inputted the marks from my predicted atar given by my school at the end of semester 1 into atar compass, it was lower than the predicted atar they gave me...
this may be because they scale it, I dunno? the marks the school use to calculate your predicted ATAR that you saw may not have been the adjusted ones they actually used
I would trust the school more than us ngl, they know your data a lotttttttttt better
 

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u seem smart what are your study methods for math/english?
haha, noo im rlly not smart but ill try to give u my tips anyways! i hope they help

so for english, the main thing is i just make sure to understand my essays really well so that i can adapt it.
like a problem i used to have and my friends as well, was that like we would memorise the essay and not spend enough time adapting it, instead we had the mentality of "i give up, whatever the q is im just gonna write my essay straight out bcs i worked so hard on it" which was rlly detrimental as if u don't practice adapting ur essentially throwing away all your work you did. like you can have a prememorised 20/20 essay to a set question but if u write that to a q in the exam that doesn't work then ur going to get max 17, and on the other hand even if u have a somewhat dodgy essay but answer the q rlly well, then a 20 is possible.
so like english fr consumes my soul for the few weeks before the exams bcs whenever i see a q i try to think of how i can change the concepts within each para to actually answer the q, like u don't even have to write it out or anything like at least think abt it seriously. so like i dont really understand it when people say 'read the text again and again' bcs instead of that i think if u have a good essay then make sure to know that really really well instead.
for writing the essays, i normally just look at nsb exemplars or good school exemplars and try to follow their way of writing, like not being vague or stepping out of the text : )

for maths, i think its just doing questions seriously.
like in y9/10 i used to be getting 50% on every test until like (idk some magical lock in for maths happened) where i did every single hw set by my teacher & more with like a not lazy attitude ifykwim. e.g not skipping the hard qs and trying to apply what i learnt from previous worked solutions that i saw to similar types of other qs. like every question is a learning experience that you can apply to a future q i feel, bcs unlike english, math qs generally have a formula that you can always follow for each type (since i only do 3u i wouldnt know anything above that if its different) and doing lots and lots of qs rlly helps u figure that out.
but tbh i think the way i approach maths is a bit wrong bcs in my practice i essentially end up memorising the way to do qs w/o understanding it & getting away with it often... instead, (from my friend whos often rank1) its better to actually understand the concept behind it
also for avoiding silly mistakes, which was my main problem, i get a piece of paper and write down where i most commonly made silly mistakes in my practice qs (e.g transcription errors) and look at it right b4 the test so i know what to avoid. this rlly helped for me!

help sorry i hope this makes sense T_T if u have any more qs feel free to askk if u want : )


whichever you have access to! in my school we never get the internal overall mark, so just in assessments is fine - your school likely has harder assessments but just saying the marks makes it easier to gauge, because though past b6s certainly help, every cohort is different (my school has swings haha)
ohh i see! i kinda don't remember the exact marks and averages for each task for each subject tho so idk if im able to provide them help sorry : (
 

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haha, noo im rlly not smart but ill try to give u my tips anyways! i hope they help

so for english, the main thing is i just make sure to understand my essays really well so that i can adapt it.
like a problem i used to have and my friends as well, was that like we would memorise the essay and not spend enough time adapting it, instead we had the mentality of "i give up, whatever the q is im just gonna write my essay straight out bcs i worked so hard on it" which was rlly detrimental as if u don't practice adapting ur essentially throwing away all your work you did. like you can have a prememorised 20/20 essay to a set question but if u write that to a q in the exam that doesn't work then ur going to get max 17, and on the other hand even if u have a somewhat dodgy essay but answer the q rlly well, then a 20 is possible.
so like english fr consumes my soul for the few weeks before the exams bcs whenever i see a q i try to think of how i can change the concepts within each para to actually answer the q, like u don't even have to write it out or anything like at least think abt it seriously. so like i dont really understand it when people say 'read the text again and again' bcs instead of that i think if u have a good essay then make sure to know that really really well instead.
for writing the essays, i normally just look at nsb exemplars or good school exemplars and try to follow their way of writing, like not being vague or stepping out of the text : )

for maths, i think its just doing questions seriously.
like in y9/10 i used to be getting 50% on every test until like (idk some magical lock in for maths happened) where i did every single hw set by my teacher & more with like a not lazy attitude ifykwim. e.g not skipping the hard qs and trying to apply what i learnt from previous worked solutions that i saw to similar types of other qs. like every question is a learning experience that you can apply to a future q i feel, bcs unlike english, math qs generally have a formula that you can always follow for each type (since i only do 3u i wouldnt know anything above that if its different) and doing lots and lots of qs rlly helps u figure that out.
but tbh i think the way i approach maths is a bit wrong bcs in my practice i essentially end up memorising the way to do qs w/o understanding it & getting away with it often... instead, (from my friend whos often rank1) its better to actually understand the concept behind it
also for avoiding silly mistakes, which was my main problem, i get a piece of paper and write down where i most commonly made silly mistakes in my practice qs (e.g transcription errors) and look at it right b4 the test so i know what to avoid. this rlly helped for me!

help sorry i hope this makes sense T_T if u have any more qs feel free to askk if u want : )




ohh i see! i kinda don't remember the exact marks and averages for each task for each subject tho so idk if im able to provide them help sorry : (
Thank you for your tips, They will come in handy.
 

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haha, noo im rlly not smart but ill try to give u my tips anyways! i hope they help

so for english, the main thing is i just make sure to understand my essays really well so that i can adapt it.
like a problem i used to have and my friends as well, was that like we would memorise the essay and not spend enough time adapting it, instead we had the mentality of "i give up, whatever the q is im just gonna write my essay straight out bcs i worked so hard on it" which was rlly detrimental as if u don't practice adapting ur essentially throwing away all your work you did. like you can have a prememorised 20/20 essay to a set question but if u write that to a q in the exam that doesn't work then ur going to get max 17, and on the other hand even if u have a somewhat dodgy essay but answer the q rlly well, then a 20 is possible.
so like english fr consumes my soul for the few weeks before the exams bcs whenever i see a q i try to think of how i can change the concepts within each para to actually answer the q, like u don't even have to write it out or anything like at least think abt it seriously. so like i dont really understand it when people say 'read the text again and again' bcs instead of that i think if u have a good essay then make sure to know that really really well instead.
for writing the essays, i normally just look at nsb exemplars or good school exemplars and try to follow their way of writing, like not being vague or stepping out of the text : )

for maths, i think its just doing questions seriously.
like in y9/10 i used to be getting 50% on every test until like (idk some magical lock in for maths happened) where i did every single hw set by my teacher & more with like a not lazy attitude ifykwim. e.g not skipping the hard qs and trying to apply what i learnt from previous worked solutions that i saw to similar types of other qs. like every question is a learning experience that you can apply to a future q i feel, bcs unlike english, math qs generally have a formula that you can always follow for each type (since i only do 3u i wouldnt know anything above that if its different) and doing lots and lots of qs rlly helps u figure that out.
but tbh i think the way i approach maths is a bit wrong bcs in my practice i essentially end up memorising the way to do qs w/o understanding it & getting away with it often... instead, (from my friend whos often rank1) its better to actually understand the concept behind it
also for avoiding silly mistakes, which was my main problem, i get a piece of paper and write down where i most commonly made silly mistakes in my practice qs (e.g transcription errors) and look at it right b4 the test so i know what to avoid. this rlly helped for me!

help sorry i hope this makes sense T_T if u have any more qs feel free to askk if u want : )




ohh i see! i kinda don't remember the exact marks and averages for each task for each subject tho so idk if im able to provide them help sorry : (
hi do u have any tips for english paper 1 short answers? im averaging 13/20 and idk if its cuz my teachers strict or im genuinely terrible
i find it hard to deal with smth on the spot considering the nature of the questions
 

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hi do u have any tips for english paper 1 short answers? im averaging 13/20 and idk if its cuz my teachers strict or im genuinely terrible
i find it hard to deal with smth on the spot considering the nature of the questions
hmm, i would say being specific is the most important thing bcs its so easy to be vague esp if u dont understand the text, like if the q says e.g 'how does the author explore the value of family connection" (sorry its a rlly bad q i just thought of it on the spot) then i would make sure, in my topic sentence to be suuper specific on exactly what connection is in the text, for example (just making this up) the way the shared trust between mother and daughter provides individuals with a sense of solace & happiness when confronted with ....,,, rather than just rewriting the q
also for techniques i dont think u need fancy ones, like the ones i always think of are voice (homodiegetic/heterodiegetic), imagery, symbolism, connotations, and it works (i think)
but mainly do a lot of timed practice under exam conditions, and it should get better !

btw just wondering, how do you prepare for short answers rn?

hope this helps : ))
 

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ohhh i see thank you!

i also didn't know atar compass over-estimates atars :eek:

when i inputted the marks from my predicted atar given by my school at the end of semester 1 into atar compass, it was lower than the predicted atar they gave me...

but yes i am aiming for usyd dent!!
Hmmm I could be wrong! I did hear that ATAR compass MAY overestimate ATARs, but don't take my word for it. It's more about what you're confident you can achieve

Nice! I'd say definitely aim high, but also make sure you have a solid backup in case your gamble doesn't work out
 

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hmm, i would say being specific is the most important thing bcs its so easy to be vague esp if u dont understand the text, like if the q says e.g 'how does the author explore the value of family connection" (sorry its a rlly bad q i just thought of it on the spot) then i would make sure, in my topic sentence to be suuper specific on exactly what connection is in the text, for example (just making this up) the way the shared trust between mother and daughter provides individuals with a sense of solace & happiness when confronted with ....,,, rather than just rewriting the q
also for techniques i dont think u need fancy ones, like the ones i always think of are voice (homodiegetic/heterodiegetic), imagery, symbolism, connotations, and it works (i think)
but mainly do a lot of timed practice under exam conditions, and it should get better !

btw just wondering, how do you prepare for short answers rn?

hope this helps : ))
tbh i dont do a lot bc i blank out and my teacher doesnt mark them anyways so i kinda sack it
and i realised that i usually look for techniques b4 understanding the texts so thats why im gonna do practice questions rn to change that up
my exams tmrw😓
 

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tbh i dont do a lot bc i blank out and my teacher doesnt mark them anyways so i kinda sack it
and i realised that i usually look for techniques b4 understanding the texts so thats why im gonna do practice questions rn to change that up
my exams tmrw😓
ahh i see! good luck for your exam tmrw 🍀🍀🍀 im sure ull do great : )
 

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why the fuck would u do chinese? it's literally the worst scaling subject unless you get a 98+
youre acc a monkey brain bro most ppl that do chinese do EXTREMELY well (continuers itself has a 40 smth % b6 rate, ext has 63% e4 rate) bc its not offerred in most schools and if youre going out of your way to do it surely youre alr good or you have some chinese heritage. ofc the scaling gonna look ass if you do ass on a subject where the majority of ppl alr do pre good
 

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