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Financial Times said:
Banks inside Gaza have been forced to shut because of a shortage of cash.

Tens of thousands of families have been left without money before a Muslim festival on Monday. Palestinian officials said Gaza's financial institutions had nearly run out of notes and coins as the result of severe Israeli curbs on the flow of goods, people and money into and out of the strip.

Already stringent restrictions were tightenedlast month, after a flare-up in violence between Israel and the Islamist Hamas group, which took over the Gaza strip last year. Palestinians in Gaza and the West Bank primarily use the Israeli currency, the shekel, and rely on transfers of notes and coins from Israel.

Other currencies, such as the US dollar and the Jordanian dinar, are also in use but are now in equally short supply in Gaza.

International organisations and senior Palestinian officials have pleaded with Israeli authorities to allow the transfer of cash into Gaza as a priority.

Jihad al-Wazir, the governor of the Palestinian Monetary Authority, warned the Bank of Israel in a letter last month that Gaza-based banks were facing "severe liquidity problems" and had seen [n]their cash reserves dwindle to 47m shekels ($12m, €9m, £8m). Gaza has a population of 1.5m people.[/b]

The letter, a copy of which has been seen by the Financial Times, warned of a "huge contagious effect to the whole banking system in Palestine" if his request for the transfer of 185m shekels were not met. The situation has since deteriorated.

Customers reportedly stormed a bank branch in Khan Younis, a town in southern Gaza, on Wednesday after it ran out of cash.

Fearing similar outbreaks of violence and in light of a lack of notes and coins, almost all banks and cash machines in Gaza have been closed since Thursday.

The cash crisis has prevented the payment of December salaries to tens of thousands of Gazans employed by the Palestinian Authority, which is based in the West Bank and regards the Hamas government in Gaza as illegitimate. Officials and workers who receive their pay from Hamas were reportedly paid on time, deepening the rift between the two groups.

The lack of cash has affected international organisations. The United Nations Relief and Works Agency, which supplies aid to one in two Gazans, was forced to suspend cash distribution to 94,000 Palestinians last week.

The problem is exacerbated by the need for Muslims to prepare for the religious festival of Eid al-Adha on Monday, a time when they spend more money on food and presents.
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/33548be2-c33a-11dd-a5ae-000077b07658.html

Messrs John Oliver, Iron, Trefoil and co would surely have you believe that Israel is some kind of bastion of respect for humanity, and upholds it at all costs. I sure do love the way they treat the Palestinians.

In this time of celebration, when Palestinians would usually be enjoying a feast and such, we watch them starve. I certainly cannot wait for Yom Kippur, when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad drops a nuclear bomb on Tel Aviv.
 

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Renounce violence, jail your terrorists and watch the world flock to your cause. Until then, your hatred will achieve nothing but death
 

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Iron said:
Renounce violence, jail your terrorists and watch the world flock to your cause. Until then, your hatred will achieve nothing but death
This.

You lose Nebuchanezzar.
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I love your posts on the Israel situation Trefoil. They're always so full of like, stuff, you know? May I subscribe to your Jewsletter?
 

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"We gave up Gaza, when will you give up terrorism?"

Simple concept really. Israel dismanted it's settlements, demilitarised Gaza, left the Palestinians her harvests and greenhouses. Palestinians fired rockets into Israel proper, demolished all the harvests and greenhouses and threw political oponents off of rooftop buildings.

If you don't want Gaza to starve, perhaps you should suggest to the Palestinians that they end terrorism, and instead smuggle in food and good will, rather than weapons and chaos.
 

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JaredR said:
"We gave up Gaza, when will you give up terrorism?"

Simple concept really. Israel dismanted it's settlements, demilitarised Gaza, left the Palestinians her harvests and greenhouses. Palestinians fired rockets into Israel proper, demolished all the harvests and greenhouses and threw political oponents off of rooftop buildings.

If you don't want Gaza to starve, perhaps you should suggest to the Palestinians that they end terrorism, and instead smuggle in food and good will, rather than weapons and chaos.

They should leave Palestine completely and return it to the original owners which is the Palestinian people.
 

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JaredR said:
"We gave up Gaza, when will you give up terrorism?"

Simple concept really. Israel dismanted it's settlements, demilitarised Gaza, left the Palestinians her harvests and greenhouses. Palestinians fired rockets into Israel proper, demolished all the harvests and greenhouses and threw political oponents off of rooftop buildings.

If you don't want Gaza to starve, perhaps you should suggest to the Palestinians that they end terrorism, and instead smuggle in food and good will, rather than weapons and chaos.
Ahh. Yes. I see. JaredR thinks that the masses ought to be starved leading to thousands of deaths as punishment for er, demolishing harvests and killing a few Israelis. Please be proportional. GG Israel.

See, thing I have against pro-Israel supporters is that they don't think things through well. Some terrorist fires a rocket into a village full of fairly innocent Israelis (who were living where they shouldn't, but meh) so they starve thousands. Some Palestinian kid throws a slice of ham at an Israeli kid, so the Israeli dad stones the kid to death. Mmm.
 

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zimmerman8k said:
Stop terrorism by punishing unrelated civilians.

A sound plan.
It has worked for Israel for the centuries in which they've occupied the nation known as Israel. :angel:
 

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we see these sorts of stories time and time again, and people still shrug them off as one-offs. for fucks sakes, the israelis have done this thing time and time again. Israelis (i'm referring to the israeli government) aren't god's children. they're the devil's children.
 

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Citizens of the non-Jewish world (aka: scum) need to realise why we proud Israeli children have been doing this to the citizens of the Gaza Strip. It is because animals need to be controlled. Like a dog needs to be beaten so it learns to sit, so too must the Arabs of Palestine be beaten so they learn to behave. We are merely training those inhabitants of the Gaza Strip to behave.
 

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zstar said:
They should leave Palestine completely and return it to the original owners which is the Palestinian people.
This idea of 'ownership' bugs me. Nation states have been formed following substantial imperialist endeavour. They generally didn't just appear.

Palestine of course, is in a slightly different category.

If we are going to recognise 'true ownership' of land, lets reshape the world completely.

Generally speaking, our right to the land, our ownership of the land, only exists whilst the prevailing government and respective laws are recognised. IMO once overturned (through war etc), we have no direct right to the land.
 
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Nebuchanezzar said:
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/33548be2-c33a-11dd-a5ae-000077b07658.html

Messrs John Oliver, Iron, Trefoil and co would surely have you believe that Israel is some kind of bastion of respect for humanity, and upholds it at all costs. I sure do love the way they treat the Palestinians.

In this time of celebration, when Palestinians would usually be enjoying a feast and such, we watch them starve. I certainly cannot wait for Yom Kippur, when Mahmoud Ahmadinejad drops a nuclear bomb on Tel Aviv.
If Ahmadinejad dropped a bomb on Tel Aviv America would be in within days and would flatten the whole of Iran.
 

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John Oliver said:
'Ownership' or inheritance of land is the same trivial nonsense that leads to religions.
Absolutely.

Land is there for the group of people who can best defend it and sustain their civilisation.
 

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Na you relativists undervalue the importance of land to the individual - ironically for the individual. We reflect our natural environment, we adapt to its rhythms. It gives us foundation, meaning and stories, bears us fruit and possessions. The closer we identify with the land -even to the extent where we will lay down our lives in defence of it -the happier and more fulfilled we are.
 

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John Oliver said:
This year is 2008.

Israel was not founded centuries ago.

GG.

Furthermore you draw a moral equivalence between restricting funds to terrorist groups and deliberately targeting civilians to further political gain. Great going, you've once again demonstrated what a stellar wit you're equipped with.
SARCASM.

Come on man you're not that thick.

And no I never drew a moral equivilence. Nice strawman :)
 

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John Oliver said:
Do we bring back the ottoman empire? Do we restore Germany's borders?

Actually, Neb, should we restore Germany's borders, given 'imperialist' forces forced them to relinquish land.

'Ownership' or inheritance of land is the same trivial nonsense that leads to religions.
Good argument mang. :rofl:

If there was some kind of massive uprising and public outrage amongst people then we could consider it. In Germany, there is not. In Palestine, there is. Take it case by case. You consider yourself pragmatic?
 

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John Oliver said:
Actually there is quite a large uprising in Germany about it, you may have heard of them, they're called the Nazis.
Yes I see massive Nazi demonstrations in Germany today...

Opinions on Kosovo, Africa... etc?
Don't know enough about them to have an opinion. :D
 

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Haha, are you saying that Neo-Nazi protests and underground rallies give Germany some rightful claim over Europe from the channel to Volgograd?
 

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