Where are all the real men? :cold: (2 Viewers)

[inasero]

Watching this video yesterday almost made me puke:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=gbAGBZ-DTT8

Has anybody else been bothered by the gradual decline in masculine identity and values in recent times? I'm talking about things like adventure, ambition, resilience, ruggedness and leadership. But everywhere you look you see emasculated men, men fartsing around with handbags and makeup, men who don't really know what they're aiming for in life and are afraid to speak their mind for fear of political correctness. It really bothers me as I'm not the crowning epitome of masculinity I'd hope to be myself, and I think it's time for men to "man-up" and claim their identities, individually and collectively. Don't get me wrong I'm not at all misogynistic, I think feminism has been great in some respects by drawing attention to gender imbalances and teaching men that women are to be respected, but I think the answer isn't to shirk away from masculine values, but to redefine the way we think about what it really means to be a man.

Note: I don't really 0expect we'll be heading down the path of Korea anytime soon, at least for our sakes I really hope not.

 

[Iron]

I think that the commitment to equality has gone too far. Sure, it's a nice thing, but we should be brave enough to say that it doesnt trump every value

 

[jb_nc]

Watching this video yesterday almost made me puke:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=gbAGBZ-DTT8

Has anybody else been bothered by the gradual decline in masculine identity and values in recent times? I'm talking about things like adventure, ambition, resilience, ruggedness and leadership. But everywhere you look you see emasculated men, men fartsing around with handbags and makeup, men who don't really know what they're aiming for in life and are afraid to speak their mind for fear of political correctness. It really bothers me as I'm not the crowning epitome of masculinity I'd hope to be myself, and I think it's time for men to "man-up" and claim their identities, individually and collectively. Don't get me wrong I'm not at all misogynistic, I think feminism has been great in some respects by drawing attention to gender imbalances and teaching men that women are to be respected, but I think the answer isn't to shirk away from masculine values, but to redefine the way we think about what it really means to be a man.

Note: I don't really 0expect we'll be heading down the path of Korea anytime soon, at least for our sakes I really hope not.

You are a Christian your opinion to anyone who is not a God botherer is worthless.

 

[Miffstaa]

those were men??? farkk

 

[dougieblow]

Dental Plan, Lisa Needs Braces

 

[inasero]

i'm sure i can find plenty of "secular" people who agree with my opinion
i mean, doesn't it bother you even a little?

 

[IronMaiden]

Thailand is worse.

 

[jb_nc]

i'm sure i can find plenty of "secular" people who agree with my opinion
i mean, doesn't it bother you even a little?

I don't care how people lives their lives that are not me.

 

[aussie-boy]

i agree to an extent

people would never describe me as a really masculine guy... and i hate the image of guys wearing footy shorts drinking VB and discussing cars and sport; in fact i couldn't think of a situation i'd rather avoid more... so i dont think "ruggedness" is a quality we really need

however i do agree on the handbags/makeup/tight jeans/hair products/taking 1 hour to get ready side of things... (cough cough french and italian dudes) - it has been taken a bit too far

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

I was at the mall with mommy earlier to buy some fruit & veg and she said unto me, "boys look like girls these days." To which I replied "Gee thanks mom."

TRUE STORY!

 

[Will Shakespear]

wtf

But everywhere you look you see emasculated men, men fartsing
around with handbags and makeup, men who don't really know what they're aiming for in life and are afraid to speak their mind for fear of political correctness.

none of those things apply to me

but i'm not a vb drinking flanno wearing yobbo
and i'm not interested in cars or that sort of thing
but i know people who are
and they respect the equality of women

so...

yay for false dichotomies!

 

[HalcyonSky]

1) These pics are for photoshoots / tv / publicity appearences, if u actually bothered to look up any of these people you'd see that most of their pics are normal.

2) It's a completely different culture to ours, get over it.

 

[black_kat_meow]

Since when are things like resiliance purely masculine traits?

Not expecting a serious answer. Lol.

 

[emobopeep]

http://artofmanliness.com/

 

[inasero]

wtf



none of those things apply to me

but i'm not a vb drinking flanno wearing yobbo
and i'm not interested in cars or that sort of thing
but i know people who are
and they respect the equality of women

so...

yay for false dichotomies!

What?

I think real masculinity lies more in strength of personal character moreso than outward appearance.

Secondly, you're arguing a straw man, since I never implied the types you described would disrespect women.

As for dichotomies, no body with half a sense would take what I said literally. Hyperbole my friend- a literary device taught in Year 10 English. Do you know it?

 

[housah0lic]

lmao at the first fairy wearing the rainbow tank top
hahahha

 

[inasero]

1) These pics are for photoshoots / tv / publicity appearences, if u actually bothered to look up any of these people you'd see that most of their pics are normal.

2) It's a completely different culture to ours, get over it.

You seem to enjoy flaunting your ignorance?

Granted, yes it is a difficult culture. It probably wasn't the best video to illustrate what I was trying to convey and I don't want people to get caught up over the whole appearance issue- but it still doesn't detract from the main argument.

 

[xeuyrawp]

Watching this video yesterday almost made me puke:

You probably fapped over it didn't you, you repressed little homophobic pillowbiter.

You seem to enjoy flaunting your ignorance?

Qft.

 

[Iron]

Pwar's a real man.
Come back to the mod fold my older, wiser brother!

 

[HalcyonSky]

Granted, yes it is a difficult culture. It probably wasn't the best video to illustrate what I was trying to convey and I don't want people to get caught up over the whole appearance issue- but it still doesn't detract from the main argument.

yeah i get what you're saying, but i dont really think its that prominent. There definately are people out there who are an abomination to masculinity like Chris Crocker, but there's been people like that all throughout history. I still think the majority of men retain those primal values you mentioned, although i will agree theres a growing trend of femininity being displayed in males, id argue its more of a phase they will grow out of rather than becoming an intrinsic part of their being