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does finding tensions in rope and strings and all that complicated structures come back in year 12 physics. It doesnt explicitly say on the syllabus dotpoints

also I would appreciate it if anyone could link me up to any thread that lists out what from year 11 comes in year 12 (if there is one) thanks
 
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all of it mate its a prerequisite for year 12
 

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yes im on a band 6 trajectory too mate don't doubt
 

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does finding tensions in rope and strings and all that complicated structures come back in year 12 physics. It doesnt explicitly say on the syllabus dotpoints

also I would appreciate it if anyone could link me up to any thread that lists out what from year 11 comes in year 12 (if there is one) thanks
yes but not in as much detail. eg for circular motion there’s a classic question about swinging a rope on a string in a vertical and how tension can change at the bottom of the circle compared to the top, another one with horizontal spinning etc. so you will definetly need to know tension. however for those newtons 2nd law questions like a bunch of boxes connected by a rope or pulleys, they won’t ask about that. tension though, definetly will
 

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does finding tensions in rope and strings and all that complicated structures come back in year 12 physics. It doesnt explicitly say on the syllabus dotpoints

also I would appreciate it if anyone could link me up to any thread that lists out what from year 11 comes in year 12 (if there is one) thanks
content that migrates is approximately this:

mod 1:
literally everything, except for arguably some relative motion applications, but this still needs to be known well for mod 7

mod 2:
essentially everything conceptually. however you basically don’t need to know about impulse (elastic and inelastic collisions will be terms that can be used though), and some of the newtons 2nd law applications aren’t there: however you still need to know most of them like inclined track and the like (essentially: can you draw a free body diagram)

mod 3:
wave equation, basic wave properties eg amplitude, period, superposition, longitudinal vs transverse etc, conceptually what reflection, refraction etc are (you don’t need to explicitly know snells law though), standing waves conceptually, thermodynamics conceptually (you really just need to know that heat energy exists lol)
so essentially, everything conceptually without the formulas, except for wave equation

mod 4:
everything but circuits

hopefully through, your teacher will remind you of what exactly some of the less super obvious concepts are, eg we went over diffraction and refraction again in way more detail in year 12 because it’s needed for one of the topics. just focus on the bigger ideas imo, like conservation of energy and newtons 2nd law, since half of the subject is essentially just applications of this in new ways
 

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circuits still come up in exams like trials too, so best to know them and don't get caught out by them.
 

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circuits still come up in exams like trials too, so best to know them and don't get caught out by them.
I've never seen circuits in a HSC paper, so once your done with trials forget about them? Cause I can not remember any of that. Kirchoffs law was something right????
 

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mate you never know buddy cuzzo, better be safe than sorry.
 

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I've never seen circuits in a HSC paper, so once your done with trials forget about them? Cause I can not remember any of that. Kirchoffs law was something right????
did you not encounter circuits in physics after year 11 or?
 

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u should learn it still as it is still assessed even in basic amounts trust me, esp if they wanna be mean to u, coz for mod 6 it still can make questions harder.
 

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circuits still come up in exams like trials too, so best to know them and don't get caught out by them.
minorly, you should know what a resistor is but you shouldn't need to know circuit analysis really. trial papers are a different story, but at least in hsc, it's not assessed
 

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minorly, you should know what a resistor is but you shouldn't need to know circuit analysis really. trial papers are a different story, but at least in hsc, it's not assessed
yea true that, it is probably just an internals assessment thing where u need to know this stuff. i doubt in the hsc they will focus on this stuff, hopefully.
 

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I though in the hsc they dont test year 11 at all? Like now that "charge" flows from positive to negative and electrons flow from neg to pos, rember the hand rules and you should be good right?
 

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content that migrates is approximately this:

mod 1:
literally everything, except for arguably some relative motion applications, but this still needs to be known well for mod 7

mod 2:
essentially everything conceptually. however you basically don’t need to know about impulse (elastic and inelastic collisions will be terms that can be used though), and some of the newtons 2nd law applications aren’t there: however you still need to know most of them like inclined track and the like (essentially: can you draw a free body diagram)

mod 3:
wave equation, basic wave properties eg amplitude, period, superposition, longitudinal vs transverse etc, conceptually what reflection, refraction etc are (you don’t need to explicitly know snells law though), standing waves conceptually, thermodynamics conceptually (you really just need to know that heat energy exists lol)
so essentially, everything conceptually without the formulas, except for wave equation

mod 4:
everything but circuits

hopefully through, your teacher will remind you of what exactly some of the less super obvious concepts are, eg we went over diffraction and refraction again in way more detail in year 12 because it’s needed for one of the topics. just focus on the bigger ideas imo, like conservation of energy and newtons 2nd law, since half of the subject is essentially just applications of this in new ways
When you say conceptually do you mean just the concept of it or calculations included
 

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When you say conceptually do you mean just the concept of it or calculations included
i just mean that you’ll be told that velocity is the instantaneous rate of change of position for example. you wouldn’t be required to use v = dx/dt though, you only have to use the average rate of change
 

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i just mean that you’ll be told that velocity is the instantaneous rate of change of position for example. you wouldn’t be required to use v = dx/dt though, you only have to use the average rate of change
should I revise the whole of year 11 phys for year 12 or nah
 

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