Rudd calls for era of "social capitalism" (1 Viewer)

[Lentern]

Taxation is the removal of funds under the threat of having criminal action taken against you.

Pretty sure that's called coercion, pretty sure coercion of funds is known as theft.

It's not a crime when the government does it.

 

[katie tully]

Yes James Packer really climbed that greasy poll he deserves every cent

This isn't about Packer or his type, and even if it was, so what? They pay more in tax each year than you'll ever earn. For every Packer, born into wealth, there are 100 other self made business people.

For every hard working Australian, there are 10 other useless cunts standing there with their hand out, expecting payment because "they deserve it and rich people are shit", like yourself.

 

[Lentern]

i see

so all people who decide to go out and work instead of being scum == James Packer

and must therefore be punished

Because all 95% of Australians who work are living it up and have no financial troubles whatsoever. It's just thr 5% of Australians who are benefiting from taxation and spending?

 

[Trefoil]

Oh come on Tully, if you're going to go to the effort of a serious post (though that's questionable since you seem to be claiming tax is evil), don't be a dickhead and blindly accuse Rudd of being a socialist because you don't like him.

Same fucking dumbshit tactic the Republicans in America do. You're no Sarah Palin.

 

[katie tully]

Oh come on Tully, if you're going to go to the effort of a serious post (though that's questionable since you seem to be claiming tax is evil), don't be a dickhead and blindly accuse Rudd of being a socialist because you don't like him.

Same fucking dumbshit tactic the Republicans in America do. You're no Sarah Palin.

Rudd's a socialist. It's not because I think he's a cunt, it's because he is.

 

[Trefoil]

Lentern can you please stop posting? You have this habbit of putting your foot in your mouth every second post. Either that or you really are a delusional communist.

 

[katie tully]

Lentern can you please stop posting? You have this habbit of putting your foot in your mouth every second post. Either that or you really are a delusional communist.

Hey Slidey, don't be a dickhead and claim that Lentern is a communist, just because he's a communist.

 

[Trefoil]

Rudd's a socialist. It's not because I think he's a cunt, it's because he is.

God damn then you're fucking ignorant as anything. Read what socialism actually is one day. It sure as fuck ain't economic centrism.

 

[katie tully]

I missed that part about tax being evil. Where in the fuck did I say tax was evil? Tax is necessary, what the fuck are you talking about.

 

[Lentern]

This isn't about Packer or his type, and even if it was, so what? They pay more in tax each year than you'll ever earn. For every Packer, born into wealth, there are 100 other self made business people.

For every hard working Australian, there are 10 other useless cunts standing there with their hand out, expecting payment because "they deserve it and rich people are shit", like yourself.

What a bunch of self serving bull butter. Roughly speaking "I got lucky and don't want to share my good fortune" The vast majority of these useless, I'm sorry I don't use that word, spend their life doing far more arduous work then the office jobs of business hacks and because they weren't born into a comfortable middle class family who sent them to private schools and pushed them into university degrees and made sure they took swimming lessons and learned French have had to climb a far steeper mountain then most of these "self made businessman"

 

[katie tully]

God damn then you're fucking ignorant as anything. Read what socialism actually is one day. It sure as fuck ain't economic centrism.

lol fuck off and suck a dick, rudd is by no means into economic centrism. He doesn't sit on the fucking fence. He claims to be an economic conservative, or atleast he did during the election. It's so far fucking removed from that, the middle of the fence isn't even touching his arse cheek.

 

[katie tully]

What a bunch of self serving bull butter. Roughly speaking "I got lucky and don't want to share my good fortune" The vast majority of these useless, I'm sorry I don't use that word, spend their life doing far more arduous work then the office jobs of business hacks and because they weren't born into a comfortable middle class family who sent them to private schools and pushed them into university degrees and made sure they took swimming lessons and learned French have had to climb a far steeper mountain then most of these "self made businessman"

How did I get lucky?

My father is a farmer/builder, my mother is a nurse. I was born into privilege, yes? I went to a public school, I'm putting myself through university, and the one thing they ever taught me was that one is responsible for their own financial stability. They don't rely on the government to prop them up because it's too hard to go out and work.

You seem to think all self made business people came from rich, well to do families. This doesn't make them self made. Are you telling me that somebody who works from the ground up to make a lot of money, and then spends that money however they like, is automatically a cunt?

 

[Trefoil]

I missed that part about tax being evil. Where in the fuck did I say tax was evil? Tax is necessary, what the fuck are you talking about.

You were going on about how tax is theft. I just presumed.

Explain. I work for x hours a week and earn y money. What I spend my money on should have no bearing on you at all, and I sure as shit shouldn't have a government intervene and tell me what I can do with my money, let alone 'confiscate'.

 

[Lentern]

Lentern can you please stop posting? You have this habbit of putting your foot in your mouth every second post. Either that or you really are a delusional communist.

Don't you have an electorate to project your own personal views upon or something? Tell us about how Julia Gillard's going to win six elections.

 

[katie tully]

You were going on about how tax is theft. I just presumed.

That wasn't about tax. That was about Lentern suggesting that people who make a lot of money should have government intervention to ensure they don't spend it on shit, so that it doesn't leave him and the other hacks "poorer".

EDIT: Nolan was the one calling it theft, because Nolan is a jew.

 

[Lentern]

How did I get lucky?

My father is a farmer/builder, my mother is a nurse. I was born into privilege, yes? I went to a public school, I'm putting myself through university, and the one thing they ever taught me was that one is responsible for their own financial stability. They don't rely on the government to prop them up because it's too hard to go out and work.

You seem to think all self made business people came from rich, well to do families. This doesn't make them self made. Are you telling me that somebody who works from the ground up to make a lot of money, and then spends that money however they like, is automatically a cunt?

Anyone who lives for themselves and not their fellow man is, that word I don't like to use.

 

[Trefoil]

lol fuck off and suck a dick, rudd is by no means into economic centrism. He doesn't sit on the fucking fence. He claims to be an economic conservative, or atleast he did during the election. It's so far fucking removed from that, the middle of the fence isn't even touching his arse cheek.

Rudd is some weird breed of left and right economic policies. I won't even begin to try and classify it, but really most such policies are are fairly centrist (centre-left, centre-right, whatever). I do think he's a tool, but he's no more a socialist (gets called that by the far-right) than he is a capitalist (gets called that by the far-left). Either classification of him is stupid.

Don't you have an electorate to project your own personal views upon or something? Tell us about how Julia Gillard's going to win six elections.

That doesn't even make sense. I don't like Rudd and I'm not a fan of Labour. Why on earth would I be a fan of Julia Gillard you cock wench?

 

[katie tully]

Anyone who lives for themselves and not their fellow man is, that word I don't like to use.

Such is the nature of man. Why should I go to work and earn money to help my fellow man? Isn't that the point of working, to help oneself? Rich people are taxed at a higher rate than low income earners - they pay for their success. Why do they owe you anything?

 

[Lentern]

Rudd is some weird breed of left and right economic policies. I won't even begin to try and classify it, but really most such policies are are fairly centrist (centre-left, centre-right, whatever). I do think he's a tool, but he's no more a socialist (gets called that by the far-right) than he is a capitalist (gets called that by the far-left). Either classification of him is stupid.



That doesn't even make sense. I don't like Rudd and I'm not a fan of Labour. Why on earth would I be a fan of Julia Gillard you cock wench?

Tell us about how Obama was cruising for a win long before anyone had heard of Sarah Palin.

 

[withoutaface]

It's not a crime when the government does it.

Hitler didn't murder a single Jew.