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War movies should be banned!


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Nebuchanezzar

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War movies are violent, sadistic, often glorify war, and place war in the mainstream as a form of enjoyment. It is self evident that people do things that they deem enjoyable. It is not quite so self evident that "monkey see monkey do", and to prove this, I offer the bobo doll experiments.

War causes widespread death, chaos, injury, psychological and economic damage. War is, by any sane measure, a detriment to any society in almost any situation. To prevent the outbreak of this evil, is it not our responsibility to prevent it from occuring if at all possible? Should we therefore ban war movies, to aid this?

Quentin Tara tntino is at the stage of post-production for his latest film, Inglorious Bastards. He has said that his aim for this film was to "make war movies fun". I propose that we ban war movies to prevent him from accomplishing this task, and to do a service for the children.

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WTF. if you weren't a member of AIL i would have negged you.
 

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Why not? The purpose of uniting as a populace is to provide maximum support and security to each individual. If media does not offer security, then it has no place in our society. Freedom and liberty are a means to an end, not the end itself. If they become a burden upon that end, as the ability to view war movies may demonstrate, then they ought to be banned.

Please government; Help me help myself.
 

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pornography of violence

let's not waste my thread through this abuse, comrades
 

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War movies must glorify the Labour party.
 

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No, from war movies one learns so much about history. e.g in valkire ( or w/e) i learn so much more about Germany in world war 2.
 

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The movement of this thread is a very cuntish move. We're talking about censorship and war here, not "omg wots ur fave movie :>)"

Good one Kwayera.
 

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No, from war movies one learns so much about history. e.g in valkire ( or w/e) i learn so much more about Germany in world war 2.
Yes. An American movie with American and British actors playing Germans in a factually incorrect movie really helps us understand WW2 Germany.
 

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War movies have a tendancy to be historically inacurate a lot of the time, which kinda defeats their 'good' purpose if any.

As for monkey see monkey do... mm perhaps they just need a higher rating enforced?

I enjoy them myself a lot of the time, and they are a bit of an eye opener for some people out there who refuse to watch the news, etc.
 

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I agree with OP

After watching "Valkyrie" i declared war on Germany.

They are sending a delegate to my house tomorrow to negotiate a ceasefire.
 

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Without war related stuff on TV kids these days wouldn't barley know that WW1 and WW2 existed. Let's face it, most of their education comes from TV and videogames... The future generation needs to see reality.
 
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i think video games have taken over the education of most kids.

i know i learnt more about ww2 and vietnam from moh and battlefield vietnam than i ever did from year 10 history. teacher was a dirty skank though. fucking retarded dumb
 

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This poll is a baby, but the majority is speaking. Not super loud, but 80% aint bad.

Anyways, to ban war movies, such as Quinton Terintino's latest project, might seem moral and respectful of those who's lives were lost or those who's families were left emotionally plundered, however the fact remains: We Are Human.

Why do humans spend billions of dollars to watch 2 men battle to the... climatic bell ring at the end of a round? Because in nature, all semi-intelligent lifeforms, with very few exceptions, compete for mates. This is so that the most likely candidate for strong and successful offspring can be identified. It is in our nature to enjoy violence and to see who is the better fighter; just when it comes to entertainment, some people have sick and twisted fantasies about what natural conflict can entail.

If anyone here can say Saw 1-5, Hostel, and any abhorrent creations likewise shouldnt be banned, and war movies should, then please shut up you hypocritical twisted fuck. I can enjoy a good slasher film, but not if the victim is disemboweled graphically and slowly in front of my face.

Anyways, back to war: "Those who cannot remember the past are doomed to repeat it". It literally means nothing in this instance; however it hold a legitimate claim that can be used that is best seen in a what shoudl be obvious.

I can think of at least 10 people who have seen at least 10 war movies, and not read a single book on them; for instance: Me. I concede it makes me seem ignorant to rely so heavily on media, yet ask yourself: how reliable is say, the History channel, or the Discovery Channel, or the Military Channel (North American Stations)? All of them, with the exception of the milirary channel, have virtually no bias, and even go to show the history of the United States in which we were completely wrong and inccorect in morales to have done what we did.

Would you say Clint Eastwood was wrong to make the movies "Flags of our Fathers" only to release a literally unbiased seeming "Letters From Iwogima"? Those 2 movies are extremely violent, to the point of grotesque, yet the intent was soley entertainment but the identification of the faults and backscenes of war.

Now for the movie I dont just believ but know proves movies are not always for show, but are alternatives to literature and textbooks to teach people how to avoid repeating history:

Full Metal Jacket. So realistic that the violence is still shocking, despite being overdrawn by slasher flicks like Saw and Hostel. It is by no means the block buster that Saving Private Ryan was, yet is still renowned by many as one of the most realistic war movies of all time given the special effects at their disposal then. Was it all gore? no. Was it funny for prolonged periods? No! Did it have a plot, a goal for the antagonist, anything that makes a real book literature? No!! So why is this movie relevent? Because it had a theme:

Vietnam was one of the most pointless wars the US has ever taken part in cooinsiding with its loses. Therein lies your theme: the movie has no point because that is the point; the war had no point. Did we learn from this movie:

Yeap. We realized communism was a farse and 20 years later the soviet regime ended and nuclear holocaust was averted. Why? Because of men and women who did their best to help the world realize that differences in goverment should never be so utterly feared unless they really pose a threat. Communism's only threat was it didnt work; and after barely 50 years, modern countries began to go back to their old ways, or become 3rd world countries.

Oh, and by the way, in literature, putting emphasis in the form of particulars in details, such as extreme violence for instance, helps to draw attention to important themes. This can be seen in movies such as Full Metal Jacket in that every time the author is trying to examplify how fucked up the war was, you guessed it, he shows the audience something they may never get out of their mind... to NEVER WANT TO SEE IT REPEATED IN REAL LIFE.

Oh, and I lied, I read a book called "The Things They Carried" by Tim O'Brien. It literally supports every point i made above, so if you want a good read that helps you understand my view, have at it.
 
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Holy fuck comrade!

EDIT: colons should be used, essentially, only to provide punctuation between term and definition. Your use of colons is unusual and scary to me.
 

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This poll is stupid: there are some very good war films that serve as a reminder what not to repeat, yet there are others which glorify war or seek only the big bucks. Neither should be banned, because people should be able to express themselves, and people should also be expected to make their own judgement on what to believe.
 

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