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Could they be charged with the distribution of child pornography?

Or, what if a group of 17 year old girls take photos of themselves naked and distribute them? Would there be a case?

EDIT: And mods, please don't move this thread to Non-School. It's a serious current affairs topic. Many young girls around the world are doing this sort of thing.
 
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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

I don't think the question is "could" - they can and have been around the world - but "should", and the answer to that is no.
 

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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

If I recall there was a case a few months back where teens were charged for distributing pics of themselves (most of the pics were semi-nudity). But I don't even remember if this was in Australia or America ...
 

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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

Isn't the age 16?

And what if a girl takes a pic of herself naked (or a guy for that matter), under the age, but doesn't show any1? Haven't they still 'created' CP and are hence in possession, despite it being of themselves?
 

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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

Alright it appears most of the recent happenings would be in America.

'Sexting’ surprise: Teens face child porn charges - Computers- msnbc.com
Girl posts nude pics, is charged with kid porn - Security - MSNBC.com
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,,25249776-5006003,00.html this one being the most recent case in the US as far as I know

Bingo one in Australia Sydney schoolgirl, 13, in sexting investigation after sending nude photo of herself to boyfriend | News | News.com.au.
 
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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

I don't think the question is "could" - they can and have been around the world - but "should", and the answer to that is no.
lol


cmon guys, LOL right??
 

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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

I think the question should be "Should an underaged child who posts naked pictures of themselves on BoS be charged with c.p?", and the answer to that is no.

Isn't the age 16?

And what if a girl takes a pic of herself naked (or a guy for that matter), under the age, but doesn't show any1? Haven't they still 'created' CP and are hence in possession, despite it being of themselves?
The minimum age for consexual sex is 16, but to appear in porn it's 18. They need to rethink the laws on this one, the person who took the original pictures can get in trouble, the people who got sent the pictures can get in trouble, and they can then get in trouble if they send the pictures around to more people. Ruining a kids life for something like that is bullshit.
 

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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

And what if a girl takes a pic of herself naked (or a guy for that matter), under the age, but doesn't show any1? Haven't they still 'created' CP and are hence in possession, despite it being of themselves?
"A person who produces, disseminates or possesses child pornography is guilty of an offence."

CRIMES ACT 1900 - SECT 91H Production, dissemination or possession of child pornography
 
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no.
 

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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

going slightly off topic for a moment. do you think that the artist who produced the pornographic photos of that 14 yr old girl a lil while back was in the wrong? im tlaking bout the one in Australia who did it in the name of art
 

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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

I remember a similar discussion of BOS that mentioned something along the lines of this. If your parents took baby photos of you naked, does that mean they ahve created cp? Imagine the chaos that would happen, when half the population has been jailed for 'creating cp'.
No, see s91H(1) in the link above. The images need to depict sexual activity or be in a sexual context.
 

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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

going slightly off topic for a moment. do you think that the artist who produced the pornographic photos of that 14 yr old girl a lil while back was in the wrong? im tlaking bout the one in Australia who did it in the name of art
You're talking about Bill Henson, and no, I don't think he was "in the wrong".
 

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You're talking about Bill Henson, and no, I don't think he was "in the wrong".
yeah bill henson was the one.

and lol...is overused
 

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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

Commonwealth legislation deals with child pornography more specifically in the context of the internet. The age within the Criminal Code Act 1995 is 18, as oppose to 16 in NSW legislation.

474.19 Using a carriage service for child pornography material
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if:
(a) the person:
(i) uses a carriage service to access material; or
(ii) uses a carriage service to cause material to be transmitted to the person; or
(iii) uses a carriage service to transmit material; or
(iv) uses a carriage service to make material available; or
(v) uses a carriage service to publish or otherwise distribute material; and
(b) the material is child pornography material.
Penalty: Imprisonment for 10 years.
(2) To avoid doubt, the following are the fault elements for the physical elements of an offence against subsection (1):
(a) intention is the fault element for the conduct referred to in paragraph (1)(a);
(b) recklessness is the fault element for the circumstances referred to in paragraph (1)(b).
Note: For the meaning of intention and recklessness see sections 5.2 and 5.4.
(3) As well as the general defences provided for in Part 2.3, defences are provided for under section 474.21 in relation to this section.
474.20 Possessing, controlling, producing, supplying or obtaining child pornography material for use through a carriage service
(1) A person is guilty of an offence if:
(a) the person:
(i) has possession or control of material; or
(ii) produces, supplies or obtains material; and
(b) the material is child pornography material; and
(c) the person has that possession or control, or engages in that production, supply or obtaining, with the intention that the material be used:
(i) by that person; or
(ii) by another person;
in committing an offence against section 474.19 (using a carriage service for child pornography material).
Penalty: Imprisonment for 10 years.
(2) A person may be found guilty of an offence against subsection (1) even if committing the offence against section 474.19 (using a carriage service for child pornography material) is impossible.
(3) It is not an offence to attempt to commit an offence against subsection (1).
474.21 Defences in respect of child pornography material
(1) A person is not criminally responsible for an offence against section 474.19 (using a carriage service for child pornography material) or 474.20 (possessing etc. child pornography material for use through a carriage service) because of engaging in particular conduct if the conduct:
(a) is of public benefit; and
(b) does not extend beyond what is of public benefit.
In determining whether the person is, under this subsection, not criminally responsible for the offence, the question whether the conduct is of public benefit is a question of fact and the person's motives in engaging in the conduct are irrelevant.
Note: A defendant bears an evidential burden in relation to the matter in this subsection, see subsection 13.3(3).
(2) For the purposes of subsection (1), conduct is of public benefit if, and only if, the conduct is necessary for or of assistance in:
(a) enforcing a law of the Commonwealth, a State or a Territory; or
(b) monitoring compliance with, or investigating a contravention of, a law of the Commonwealth, a State or a Territory; or
(c) the administration of justice; or
(d) conducting scientific, medical or educational research that has been approved by the Minister in writing for the purposes of this section.
(3) A person is not criminally responsible for an offence against section 474.19 (using a carriage service for child pornography material) or 474.20 (possessing etc. child pornography material for use through a carriage service) if:
(a) the person is, at the time of the offence, a law enforcement officer, or an intelligence or security officer, acting in the course of his or her duties; and
(b) the conduct of the person is reasonable in the circumstances for the purpose of performing that duty.
Note: A defendant bears an evidential burden in relation to the matter in this subsection, see subsection 13.3(3).
(4) A person is not criminally responsible for an offence against section 474.19 (using a carriage service for child pornography material) or 474.20 (possessing etc. child pornography material for use through a carriage service) if the person engages in the conduct in good faith for the sole purpose of:
(a) assisting the Australian Communications and Media Authority to detect:
(i) prohibited content (within the meaning of Schedule 7 to the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 ); or
(ii) potential prohibited content (within the meaning of that Schedule);
in the performance of the Authority's functions under Schedule 5 or Schedule 7 to that Act; or
(b) manufacturing or developing, or updating, content filtering technology (including software) in accordance with:
(i) a recognised alternative access‑prevention arrangement (within the meaning of clause 40 of Schedule 5 to the Broadcasting Services Act 1992 ); or
(ii) a designated alternative access‑prevention arrangement (within the meaning of clause 60 of that Schedule).
Note: A defendant bears an evidential burden in relation to the matter in this subsection, see subsection 13.3(3).
Additionally, the COPINE scale is utilised to determine the category that each photograph or picture falls within.

Does thinking make it so? Defining online child pornography possession offences [Report - text version]

Criminal sanctions are definitely not the way to deal with the issue. It's a cliche, but educating young girls (and boys) of the consequences that can flow from pictures being in the public domain is the key.

Nonetheless, under the current approach in NSW, as long as they make admissions, they would be eligible for youth caution.
 
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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

going slightly off topic for a moment. do you think that the artist who produced the pornographic photos of that 14 yr old girl a lil while back was in the wrong? im tlaking bout the one in Australia who did it in the name of art

*censored by the new internet filter

Here is one of the hardcore pornographic images that our glorious PM found "absolutely revolting". Yeah, some real sexual content there.

Fuck you.
 
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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

So basically, if I take pictures of myself naked and send them around to you guys, I'd be charged with the distribution of child pornography.

(I'm 17).

Pretty lol.

Anyone want a video of me wanking?
 

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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

Yeah you can, but i dont think you should. It just further highlights how ridiculous the CP laws are in Australia. They are designed to protect children but what if the one creating it is the child lol

theres no, no protection there!
 
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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

So basically, if I take pictures of myself naked and send them around to you guys, I'd be charged with the distribution of child pornography.

(I'm 17).

Pretty lol.

Anyone want a video of me wanking?
:uhhuh:

Or even better, a video of you doing yourself up the poohole.
 

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Re: Could an underaged child who sends naked pictures of themselves be charged with c

:uhhuh:

Or even better, a video of you doing yourself up the poohole.
Wats the offence if an 18 videos themselves and shows a 17 yr old?

Imagine if u had an older gf (say lik she was 18) and she showed u her tits in a pic??
 

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