Population Control ? (2 Viewers)

[squiresshane990]

Meh i dont think no electricity will wipe out 90% of the worlds population when 90% dont even have access to it lol.

Also how long would it take to fix some transformers. Obviously having no electricity to weld with etc would be a problem but thats what generators are for.

Knowing starts good but ends up stupid with aliens and other dumb shit

 

[gcchick]

Kill all stupid people. Simple, really.

 

[whatashotbyseve]

contraception.

The Pope doesn't like that. Condoms are ineffective apparently.

 

[squiresshane990]

for stopping aids anyway

i know lol increase the prevalence of aids?

 

[Kwayera]

I blame the church, aided by the state, for perpetuating the idea that everyone should have kids.

Especially the idea that everyone is entitled to children, even if you can't afford them, and the state should give you money to raise them if you don't have an income.

There's a terrible ingrained cultural value placed on the creation of human life above all else. It's an extremely taboo thing for a scientist to suggest that maybe less people should be born. But it's the glaringly obvious solution to almost all the problems of the modern world

You can't do this by coercion or legislation, but it could certainly be encouraged culturally. There's a lot to be said for the benefits of the childless lifestyle. Progressive churches could advocate the selfless sacrifice of not having children for the good of the planet.

/Awaits Iron's response about the goodness of life.

This. I myself am unlikely to have kids, and if I do, I will probably attempt to adopt.

Well, scientifically speaking, our population is probably going to be reduced from an outside source anyway. We're getting unnervingly close to the tipping point of a runaway greenhouse effect, which would cause crop failiures etc etc and ultimately result in 80-90% of the world's populatoin dying of starvation anyway. There's also a fairly high chance of a major solar storm in the next couple of years, which could cause the electrical grids of entire countries to fail, and nationwide failures like that would last for months... and that means people will again die of starvation and thirst, not to mention a lack of electricity to hospitals so that people will die of otherwise easily curable disease.

Population control is going to happen eventually, whether we like it or not

Uh. Maybe - not a significantly (statistically) high chance that we should be panicking about it, but regardless, generators?

 

[squiresshane990]

This. I myself am unlikely to have kids, and if I do, I will probably attempt to adopt.



Uh. Maybe - not a significantly (statistically) high chance that we should be panicking about it, but regardless, generators?

Thats what i thought. Sure there would be a few hours/days of panic and no power etc but it wouldnt be any worse than say a flood where power is knocked out and water supplies are contaminated. Army etc would help, providing food and water for a few days until power could be restored. I dont see it killing many. People in need of medical attention would be sent to field hospitals etc. yawn

 

[Graney]

The impulse to not respect life IS the downfall, friendo

Is the creation of life really being given the due respect by some of these people? I don't see a great degree of respect and reverence in how many people take care of their kids.

The relentless production of children by all and sundry, with no purpose and plan, where children are brought into the world by accident, out of boredom, or to try to save a relationship, devalues life and the gravity of childbirth.

 

[Iron]

I dont see how producing life "devalues" it. The circumstances around the creation are irrelevant to the fact that life is there and must be respected.
Are you suggesting that there's an inflation problem?

 

[Graney]

That's exactly what I'm suggesting. Abolish worthless fiat children, all my kids are backed with gold.

 

[Iron]

Haha

Yes, well, I think that your conclusion is valid for your belief system. I happen to believe that we are created in a divine image and are commanded to respect ourselves and others as a temple. If you dont have a solid basis for believing that all life has an absolute, unquestionable right to exist, that everyone is an end, not a means, in themselves, then you cant avoid backing things that kill and degrade people
society follows suit

 

[Graney]

I might support the absolute, unquestioned right for life to exist. I agree that, without such a belief, we have nothing. All ethics flow from the right of life to exist.

This doesn't mean I have to support the creation of more of it. From where I'm standing, the relentless creation of life threatens the existence of all life, human or otherwise. More life at this point is counterproductive to sustainability.

 

[squiresshane990]

u guys r boring

 

[Iron]

So your like a dude in a lifeboat, with an oar, smacking all the floundering people trying to get in?
YOULL SWAMP US

Again I depart from you, because we believe that there is something important about the sex act itself - that it was a precious gift intended to be used only for the creation of life. When that gift is mocked by fertile humans, when they cheat to get out of the divine responsibility to fill the earth until the second coming of the saviour, they make God cranky

I agree that sustainability is a worthy goal - that we are to take care of the planet created for us - but I think that population control should always be left to the individuals and preferrably to their own discipline in sexual matters

 

[jessiminica]

Meh i dont think no electricity will wipe out 90% of the worlds population when 90% dont even have access to it lol.

Also how long would it take to fix some transformers. Obviously having no electricity to weld with etc would be a problem but thats what generators are for.

Knowing starts good but ends up stupid with aliens and other dumb shit

Dang. Not gonna bee seeing that. Also, as it says in the links, there are a very few spare transformers, but they need to be replaced rather than fixed, and there aren't enough spares. It would take a minimum of 12 months to make even a few.

Uh. Maybe - not a significantly (statistically) high chance that we should be panicking about it, but regardless, generators?

Generators require fuel to run. fuel needs to be pumped. Pumps work on... you guessed it, electricity. If you'd read the article I originally linked to, it explains that

 

[squiresshane990]

Dang. Not gonna bee seeing that. Also, as it says in the links, there are a very few spare transformers, but they need to be replaced rather than fixed, and there aren't enough spares. It would take a minimum of 12 months to make even a few.




Generators require fuel to run. fuel needs to be pumped. Pumps work on... you guessed it, electricity. If you'd read the article I originally linked to, it explains that

I think you took that article a little too literally.

And from what i knew about transformers they are really simple lol.

Maybe they were referring to substations and stuff?

 

[jessiminica]

I think you took that article a little too literally.

And from what i knew about transformers they are really simple lol.

Maybe they were referring to substations and stuff?

Fromthe article online and the stuff in the magazines, it's the transformers at the substations. I've read a few follow up articles- the introduction is kinda... sensationalist, but the rest is dead serious.

 

[Kwayera]

Generators require fuel to run. fuel needs to be pumped. Pumps work on... you guessed it, electricity. If you'd read the article I originally linked to, it explains that

Fuel can be rationed and supplemented with solar and wind-power generators until the "crisis" was over, given that they'd only be supplying places of great importance (i.e. hospitals). It'd be a few months of frustration and devastating to the world economy, but we'd survive.

 

[jessiminica]

Fuel can be rationed and supplemented with solar and wind-power generators until the "crisis" was over, given that they'd only be supplying places of great importance (i.e. hospitals). It'd be a few months of frustration and devastating to the world economy, but we'd survive.

Fuel can (and would have to) be rationed, but it was also addressed in the article... I think there was enough to run stuff for about 72 hours? That may have been something else, can't remember exactly, and am too lazy to find it. How will the power get from the wind/solar farms to the hospitals etc? Transformers=dead.

 

[Tully B.]

Nuclear Armageddon is looking mighty fine...

 

[pman]

Why do we need population control, theoretically there is enough food available to make the whole world fat (source: advatising poster from world aid in my school library)