Forced Abortion (6 Viewers)

[SnowFox]

The moment of conception is the moment when the embryo/fetus/baby begins to grow and form. It is the moment they become a living thing.

My point of view is when it becomes sentient, brainwaves and all.

 

[katie tully]

The moment of conception is the moment when the embryo/fetus/baby begins to grow and form. It is the moment they become a living thing.

No it isn't.

It's not a viable life. If you take the foetus out of the womb before a certain amount of time, I think the minimum is 24 weeks, it is not viable. It relies on the mother to sustain growth and development, it is not a live entity in itself.

You can't tell me that a blastocyst is living.

 

[J.a.d.e :-)]

It is still a living creature, regardless of whether it is relying on another. IT IS STILL ALIVE.

 

[SnowFox]

No it isn't.

It's not a viable life. If you take the foetus out of the womb before a certain amount of time, I think the minimum is 24 weeks, it is not viable. It relies on the mother to sustain growth and development, it is not a live entity in itself.

You can't tell me that a blastocyst is living.

She'd google it.

 

[SnowFox]

It is still a living creature, regardless of whether it is relying on another. IT IS STILL ALIVE.

If i was to stick a tape worm in your eyeball, would you kill it?

 

[katie tully]

It is still a living creature, regardless of whether it is relying on another. IT IS STILL ALIVE.

It's ... not ... fucking ... alive

Do you even know what a blastocyst is?

 

[Tully B.]

As they say, every abortion is just:

One more heart that was stopped.
Two more eyes that will never see.
Two more hands that will never touch.
Two more legs that will never run.
One more mouth that will never speak.

Who says this?

 

[SnowFox]

Who says this?

Devote Religious people, i.e. people SANE people dont give a shit about.

 

[katie tully]

As they say, every abortion is just:

One more heart that was stopped.
Two more eyes that will never see.
Two more hands that will never touch.
Two more legs that will never run.
One more mouth that will never speak.

Oh hi there, I almost missed this shit.

 

[Tully B.]

i.e. bible bashing, seedy old men who stand outside aborting clinics with pictures of fetuses, looking seedy and bashing bibles.

 

[J.a.d.e :-)]

It's ... not ... fucking ... alive

Do you even know what a blastocyst is?

A structure made up of cells that forms like, 6 days or something after fertilisation? The last stage before the embryo implants itself into the wall of the uterus?

 

[katie tully]

A structure made up of cells that forms like, 6 days or something after fertilisation? The last stage before the embryo implants itself into the wall of the uterus?

No explain the part to me where it's alive.

 

[Tully B.]

You keep saying it's a creature, but does that make it human? As far as I know, it's indistinguishable from the fetus of a dolphin at that point.

 

[Tully B.]

... I'm not bagging out dolphins. Just saying. At that stage, Dolphin = human.

 

[J.a.d.e :-)]

No explain the part to me where it's alive.

Not knowing an overly large amount about this topic other than what I researched for a biology debate in year 12, I wont deny that blastocysts may not technically be "human" life, but they are living cells which may or may not develop into embryos. Thay are alive. They're growing. They die if they are unsuccessful in implanting into the uterine wall. For them to die, they must at first be alive.

 

[katie tully]

Not knowing an overly large amount about this topic other than what I researched for a biology debate in year 12, I wont deny that blastocysts may not technically be "human" life, but they are living cells which may or may not develop into embryos. Thay are alive. They're growing. They die if they are unsuccessful in implanting into the uterine wall. For them to die, they must at first be alive.

You're trying to associate 'alive' with 'life'. It's not the same. These cells, the foetus, cannot sustain life. They are not independent, viable organisms.

 

[runoutofsleep]

yeah cells are alive take that you murderers

 

[SnowFox]

Not knowing an overly large amount about this topic other than what I researched for a biology debate in year 12, I wont deny that blastocysts may not technically be "human" life, but they are living cells which may or may not develop into embryos. Thay are alive. They're growing. They die if they are unsuccessful in implanting into the uterine wall. For them to die, they must at first be alive.

Well hang on, looking at it from this point of view, cancerous tumours are "living cells" and is not human life, so if we remove it and kill it, is it murder?

 

[J.a.d.e :-)]

Well hang on, looking at it from this point of view, cancerous tumours are "living cells" and is not human life, so if we remove it and kill it, is it murder?

Does it run the possibility of turning into an embryo?

 

[SnowFox]

Does it run the possibility of turning into an embryo?

No, but your implying that killing human cells that are obviously not sentient yet is murder. Since cancer is indeed human cells but mutated, just like a fertilised egg, wouldnt it also be murder if you destroyed the cancer.