White Australia (2 Viewers)

[Cyrus the Great]

is Iron a jew?

 

[loquasagacious]

The Cth and Australia in general was simply too fragile to import vastly different cultures en mass around the time of federation. We needed more time to consolidate and build. When it was clear that we had to officially scrap the policy in the 70s, though it was painful, we were probably, essentially strong enough.

Egalitarianism painted a solid canvas of identity in two world wars. Post-war reconstruction was the safest way to begin to extend this principle to non-Anglo-Saxons and it was a success. The policy of multiculturalism was far less delicate, imposed by our cold-hearted fat-headed Whitlam without popular or bipartisan support. It was an artless imposition, but we've just managed to deal with it bc we are ready

Certainly an influx of migrants would have changed the make-up of Australia but I disagree that it would have been a bad thing. Who is to say that we couldn't have been an early multi-cultural society?

 

[Iron]

Just saying that no one really desires multiculturalism. It's a political, economic and diplomatic reality that we're stuck with. We have to accept more people and it's far too tricky to have them all assimilate to anglo-saxon culture. Every western country is suffering from the same problem.

When it boils down to it, I think most people want to stick to their own. It's reassuring to know that you automatically have xy&z in common with a total stranger. Makes business, friendship, nation-building everything 100x easier. We might respect the dignity of foreign individuals, their cultures and even be fascinated by them, but we dont want to see ourselves muscled out of our own communities by cultures made more vital and vocal by their distance from their homeland. At the end of the day, it results in a community that no one really claims to own or care for. There's no broad social cohesion to bind us as a people. It's a tragic denial of the unique culture this magnificent nation created and fostered in its early years.

But so it goes.

 

[Iron]

Certainly an influx of migrants would have changed the make-up of Australia but I disagree that it would have been a bad thing. Who is to say that we couldn't have been an early multi-cultural society?

Clearly that's just naive
Clearly comrade.

I refuse to part take in this blackarmbanderism

 

[Cyrus the Great]

your dad should do what Jews do, and only employ people that are the same race as yourself.

trickle down theory BBJ, your Paki money is going to 4 anglos who will spend it on goods and services bought from other anglos.... its not like they'll source Paki people for there groceries.

Thats partly why the Paki race is struggling...

My dad doesnt give a shit about pakis. lol

 

[Cyrus the Great]

I also do not like the term "multiculturalism". It undertones that out of many cultures we come together yet are still fucking separated tribes.


Should use another term

 

[loquasagacious]

Just saying that no one really desires multiculturalism. It's a political, economic and diplomatic reality that we're stuck with. We have to accept more people and it's far too tricky to have them all assimilate to anglo-saxon culture. Every western country is suffering from the same problem.

When it boils down to it, I think most people want to stick to their own. It's reassuring to know that you automatically have xy&z in common with a total stranger. Makes business, friendship, nation-building everything 100x easier. We might respect the dignity of foreign individuals, their cultures and even be fascinated by them, but we dont want to see ourselves muscled out of our own communities by cultures made more vital and vocal by their distance from their homeland. At the end of the day, it results in a community that no one really claims to own or care for. There's no broad social cohesion to bind us as a people. It's a tragic denial of the unique culture this magnificent nation created and fostered in its early years.

But so it goes.

Living in the past dear fren. I think you're right that people stick to their own but defining 'their own' on racialist terms is naive at best - the power of society is it's ability to evolve and adapt to create a binding culture and associated norms/mores/etc. While mass migration could concievably have led to a different national identity I strongly disagree that it would have led to an inferior national identity.

 

[flaganarchy]

ausziez r selektivlee multeecultrel

 

[pman]

ausziez r selektivlee multeecultrel

Sadly, I agree with the man

 

[Phoenix Fury]

Iron puts forth a good argument, much of it I agree with.

 

[Iron]

Living in the past dear fren. I think you're right that people stick to their own but defining 'their own' on racialist terms is naive at best - the power of society is it's ability to evolve and adapt to create a binding culture and associated norms/mores/etc. While mass migration could concievably have led to a different national identity I strongly disagree that it would have led to an inferior national identity.

Clearly this "binding culture" has not come about in 21st c Austraila. In a definitional sense, multiculturalism is a surrender to this attempt to 'bind' at all. We're just very loosely bound in a very dry legal-political sense. There is far less reason to believe that multiculturalism would have been possible in early 20th c Australia.

I dont accept that this is racist. It's a coincidence of history and geography that race and culture are often bound together. There's nothing objectively better about an anglo-saxon as compared to a chinaman. The political/legal difference should always be minimal as both are human beings of equal moral worth.
However
Theyre culturally miles apart and I do not blush when I say that I prefer the anglo-saxon to the asian. I just have a cultural preference based on my history and experience. I dont automatically jump from this to say that Asians are less human etc. In fact, I assume that they have a preference for their own culture too. They probably look upon their own history and institutions with a similar sentimentality and love that sees past blemishes as I do. This is why instead of getting to know locals and win their trust, they segregate themselves and build self-sustaining villages in which their culture thrives independent from mainstream Australia.
I dont feel obligated to rationalize and explain this love for my own (historical) culture (you relativist, materialistic bean-counter). It, like all love, just issss