Abbott thinks reading the Bible should be compulsory in schools (3 Viewers)

[kittykat4eva]

well think about it, the rudd government wants to censor the net, and abbot wants to introduce compulsary bible reading.... the bible reading could eaily b fixed to not discriminate, like using it as a hsc text, or maybe making it in a way that the areas main religion is focused read, like in a christian area, the bible and so on... but also about 65% or something (as of 2006 census) of the country was Christian, thats a large percentage...

on the contrary the rudd government wants to censor the net, sure at the moment its just to censor the child pornography regime, however that can still be gotten in many other ways, but this may also lead to more children being harmed in the future due to the people wanting this stuff, to have to go out and find them themselves, and i think that could be worse... but in the future who knows what they are goin to censor... they are turning australia into a communist country, with the lack of democratic nature.

im not saying that either is right however, i know which one i would prefer...

 

[moll.]

I think reading trhe Karma Sutra should be compulsory in schools.

 

[wendybird]

What a load of bull. Why not read the Communist Manifesto or something similarly indoctrinating while we're at it.

No one should have a religion or any other set of beliefs forced upon them. This honestly seems like a case of white judaeo-christian elitism and superiority.

 

[0bs3n3]

No one should have a religion or any other set of beliefs forced upon them. This honestly seems like a case of white judaeo-christian elitism and superiority.

lol it's not forced on them, unless you're seriously saying you personally could not read the Bible without converting to Christianity?

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

lol it's not forced on them, unless you're seriously saying you personally could not read the Bible without converting to Christianity?

I know they're not forced to convert to christianity. They are forced to read the bible nontheless.

 

[jet]

It all depends on how it is taught.

As an influential text in the history of Australia it deserves a mention. We began as a Christian colony, and one cannot deny that many of our laws/traditions could be traced back to religious roots (e.g. Good Friday is a public holiday, and just look at Christmas).

Though indoctrination is disgusting, and shouldn't be tolerated.

 

[ilikebeeef]

they are turning australia into a communist country, with the lack of democratic nature.

It's a conspiracy!

It all depends on how it is taught.

If it happens, chances are that it will be taught by Christian Religious Education Teachers. Say hello to bias!

 

[0bs3n3]

I have read the Bible a fair bit - personally I find it interesting. I see no issue in studying the Bible and analysing it (it would also expose students to exegesis, which is rather intriguing) as long as it is considered along with other religous texts i.e. there is choice/variety which will go some way to preventing underhanded indoctrination.

It all depends on how it is taught.

As an influential text in the history of Australia it deserves a mention. We began as a Christian colony, and one cannot deny that many of our laws/traditions could be traced back to religious roots (e.g. Good Friday is a public holiday, and just look at Christmas).

Though indoctrination is disgusting, and shouldn't be tolerated.

I'm a Christian and I approve this message.

 

[annabackwards]

Abbott can go to hell.

+infinity

I'm a Christian and I approve this message.

I am an athiest and i also approve of the aforementioned message.

 

[Kwayera]

And I love how atheists (or whatever you define yourselves as, following on from that debate earlier) seem to think being overbearingly arrogant and adopting a vicious mob mentality will somehow convince people of their 'cause'?

Don't you think it's arrogant to assume that any deity, should they exist, would be interested in the day-to-day goings-on of our lives? Honey, that's a bit self-centered.

 

[Phoenix Fury]

And with 6 billion+ people, if such a being did exist it would be very select few, if any at all, that would be of interest.

 

[Kwayera]

And with 6 billion+ people, if such a being did exist it would be very select few, if any at all, that would be of interest.

I was more thinking in a "IT'S A BIG BLOODY UNIVERSE" kind of way.

 

[Phoenix Fury]

Well yeh that too, the universe is so vast that life is almost a certainty to exist in other places too. Or at least there'd be some cooler shit than what's happenin on earth.

 

[jet]

Well yeh that too, the universe is so vast that life is almost a certainty to exist in other places too. Or at least there'd be some cooler shit than what's happenin on earth.

There's a mathematical argument in our cosmology textbook. At any one time, there could be 1000 sources of life, though only 1 technologically advanced species (for want of a better word) in our galaxy at a time.

 

[Cazic]

Don't you think it's arrogant to assume that any deity, should they exist, would be interested in the day-to-day goings-on of our lives? Honey, that's a bit self-centered.

Not really, at least not any more than it would be arrogant for a bacterium sitting on a petri dish to think that humans are interested in how it's going.

 

[Kwayera]

There's a mathematical argument in our cosmology textbook. At any one time, there could be 1000 sources of life, though only 1 technologically advanced species (for want of a better word) at a time.

In the entire universe. The entire universe. Yeah, okay.

 

[jet]

In the entire universe. The entire universe. Yeah, okay.

Whoops, I meant our galaxy. Sorry; I didn't mean to be so implicit.

 

[Kwayera]

I'll bet that's from the Drake equation too, right?

 

[wendybird]

I like what Jetblack says - was it Paul Davies you read? I also found him immensely compelling, and tbh his thoughts on intelligent design and the nature of the universe (as having a pattern and structure and as being somehow tied to the human mind) is quite eloquent.

I'm not an atheist, I do sense spirituality - but for me it isn't found in any religious text. Its found in the beauty of nature, the patterns of the universe and a sense of awe felt in the presence of wonderful things - natural and man made.

I DO however still think that making anyone read a religious text is a form of indoctrination - I don't approve of forcing anyone to read anything - whether that be the bible, twilight etc.

To be quite honest, if we should be critically analysing and understanding anything - It really should be Islam, for the way it would most likely (or hopefully) dispell some stereotypes and bridge the East/West dichotomy and what Edward Said terms the "Other" in Orientalism.

 

[jet]

It was Cosmology: The Science of the Universe by E A Harrison.

Whilst the argument could be convincing, it was a little simplistic for me.

I agree with Wendybird on learning about Islam. It really helped to do away with the prejudices my racist father had instilled into me.