Should the government nationalize food and issue us with GOVERNMENT MEALS? (2 Viewers)

[badquinton304]

Most people recognise the need for government intervention in important areas like healthcare and education. This is a good start, but what could be more important than food?

I propose that the government nationalize all food production. It can then guarantee nutritious, good quality food to every Australian.

This would save us billions on our health care bill. The government could simply issue us with vouchers for healthy meals formulated by our best scientists. We could also ban imported food, which would of course help create Aussie jobs. We could even ban the production and sale of unhealthy foods. Remember, when people eat unhealthy food, they are not just hurting themselves, they are hurting everyone because of the strain they put on the public health system.

Most importantly, access to decent food is a basic right. Sorry to all you whack job libertarians who insist that the so called "free market" is perfect, but it is too dangerous to leave something as important as food to the evil forces of greed and lust for profits that dominate your precious "free market."

Pretty much half of the ads on tv are food and drink related. Due to issues of taste this idea is useless because it cannot be implemented. Grocery shops are gone, many small buisnesses are gone.

Are we going to throw people in jail for smuggling beer and pork? Of course not anarchy would break out.
If people want to eat unhealthy food they will do it.
You may have people eating healthy but will they excercise, you cannot force people to stay off the couch and they would have no reason to, because they may not understand the value of a healthy lifestyle.
Education can encourage people to excercise and eat right, whilst having low health costs as well as keeping one of the worlds largest industries alive in australia, but with competition based on quality and health. It's not easy, but it works.

 

[John McCain]

The government already controls what we can drink by the mandatory dosing of our water supply with the poisonous industrial waste byproduct fluoride.

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

Pretty much half of the ads on tv are food and drink related. Due to issues of taste this idea is useless because it cannot be implemented. Grocery shops are gone, many small buisnesses are gone.

Are we going to throw people in jail for smuggling beer and pork? Of course not anarchy would break out.
If people want to eat unhealthy food they will do it.
You may have people eating healthy but will they excercise, you cannot force people to stay off the couch and they would have no reason to, because they may not understand the value of a healthy lifestyle.
Education can encourage people to excercise and eat right, whilst having low health costs as well as keeping one of the worlds largest industries alive in australia, but with competition based on quality and health. It's not easy, but it works.

Go eat the mad cow beef and drink the flouride water you slave scum.

You love being a slave to the New World Order.

 

[badquinton304]

Go eat the mad cow beef and drink the flouride water you slave scum.

You love being a slave to the New World Order.

Yeah, yeah, next time come up with a practical idea, that has a few more degrees of impact thought into it. You're full of ideals.

 

[SylviaB]

whole lot of stupid up in this thread


seriously though the fact that people make a profit out of one of the most fundamental of human needs quite frankly disgusts me

 

[Name_Taken]

whole lot of stupid up in this thread


seriously though the fact that people make a profit out of one of the most fundamental of human needs quite frankly disgusts me

I fail to see what is wrong or immoral with a person or corporation, in possession of a legitimate commodity, such as food products, exercising their right to distribute and sell said commodity to consumers, for profit.

 

[0bs3n3]

Go eat the mad cow beef and drink the flouride water you slave scum.

You love being a slave to the New World Order.

What you're proposing sounds more Orwellian tbh.

 

[ilikebeeef]

seriously though the fact that people make a profit out of one of the most fundamental of human needs quite frankly disgusts me

So... you want to plant/grow/water/harvest your own vegetables/sugar/rice/wheat or whatever, raise/slaughter your own farm animals, make your own bread everyday, cook every single thing you eat (if lazy, eat them raw), mine your own iron ore (and salt), refine them, smith your own cutlery, and get your own gas to fire a stove which you have made (or maybe you would just use a wood fire?)?

 

[ilikebeeef]

see my above post
and obviously the argument I was using was that the government should provide food for us

seriously I thought I had established myself as an extremist right winger : /

Well then you have contradicted yourself lol.

 

[ilikebeeef]

-_-


i meant that given the supposed reputation I had developed that it would have been clear that i was joking

Oh... I couldn't tell you were joking, lol. My bad.

 

[Iron]

 

[Planck]

It's fairly obvious that we need a ruling class of oligarchs to move towards a utilitarian goal of maximum happiness for all citizens.

How this is implemented is trivial, it's obvious the intelligentsia knows better than the proletariat, and frankly the proletariate is too stupid to realise what is happening.

If what you are doing is for the good of a person, it is irrelevant how may of their so called 'rights' (Nonsense upon stilts) you violate.

 

[Iron]

The gin was served out to them in handleless china mugs. They threaded their way across the crowded room and unpacked their trays on to the metal-topped table, on one corner of which someone had left a pool of stew, a filthy liquid mess that had the appearance of vomit. Winston took up his mug of gin, paused for an instant to collect his nerve, and gulped the oily-tasting stuff down. When he had winked the tears out of his eyes he suddenly discovered that he was hungry. He began swallowing spoonfuls of the stew, which, in among its general sloppiness, had cubes of spongy pinkish stuff which was probably a preparation of meat. Neither of them spoke again till they had emptied their pannikins. From the table at Winston's left, a little behind his back, someone was talking rapidly and continuously, a harsh gabble almost like the quacking of a duck, which pierced the general uproar of the room.

 

[philphie]

It's fairly obvious that we need a ruling class of oligarchs to move towards a utilitarian goal of maximum happiness for all citizens.

How this is implemented is trivial, it's obvious the intelligentsia knows better than the proletariat, and frankly the proletariate is too stupid to realise what is happening.

If what you are doing is for the good of a person, it is irrelevant how may of their so called 'rights' (Nonsense upon stilts) you violate.

the intelligentsia will always remain the most passive, to at most only quarrel among the pedantic differences in their argument and perception

 

[SylviaB]

The gin was served out to them in handleless china mugs. They threaded their way across the crowded room and unpacked their trays on to the metal-topped table, on one corner of which someone had left a pool of stew, a filthy liquid mess that had the appearance of vomit. Winston took up his mug of gin, paused for an instant to collect his nerve, and gulped the oily-tasting stuff down. When he had winked the tears out of his eyes he suddenly discovered that he was hungry. He began swallowing spoonfuls of the stew, which, in among its general sloppiness, had cubes of spongy pinkish stuff which was probably a preparation of meat. Neither of them spoke again till they had emptied their pannikins. From the table at Winston's left, a little behind his back, someone was talking rapidly and continuously, a harsh gabble almost like the quacking of a duck, which pierced the general uproar of the room.

what the fuck does Sherlock Holmes have to do with anything?

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

what the fuck does Sherlock Holmes have to do with anything?

lol

 

[Serius]

Nice idea, i wouldnt mind if more things were government run. Somehow i dont think this would be the right solution though. For most things, we want to be increasing peoples choices and freedoms, not limiting them. Maybe if they had t his as a side project and use it for poor people / people on benefits and then richier workers who can afford luxury foods can buy it if they want.

Maybe just make all the basics "free" e.g woolworths homebrand style bread is free to grab, pasta, rice, a few basics like that. Have a card so they can check how much you are consuming, if you take too much you get audited.

 

[Phoenix Fury]

I think Serius has quite a good idea with what he proposed, especially being less drastic. I would likely support something along those lines. Of course there would be more shit to work out too but yeh.

and lol @ impervious182

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

You should consider joining Young Labor.

I think you'll have a lot in common, they support the nanny state too. Of course, you'll be marginalised by anybody who actually supports freedom in this country.

Yeah people like to go on about "freedom." Enjoy the freedom to starve you market fundamentalist.

 

[badquinton304]

Should be in every NCAP thread.
Also serius idea is good, it's like a soup kitchen, so it ensures everyone is fed, but does not cripple any industry, it lets consumers have choice and does not have many practical problems.