Homosexuality in Australia (14 Viewers)

[Iron]

Either way, if gay marriage were instigated tomorrow, I would not take to the streets in protest - even being religiously inclined to disagree with it.

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Coward???
I would join the intitial wave of knee-jerk opposition, then take on something quieter and more dignified like silent group protests by candle light every week at the relevant local authority

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

do you believe that women should be forced to marry their rapists?

yes/no.

I thought they're spose to get stoned?

 

[Will Shakespear]

I thought they're spose to get stoned?

in the bible they can either marry him, or be stoned to death if they refuse

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

Nah, but they should both be stoned to death, ya know?

Why aren't they nowadays?

 

[Ethanescence]

I admit that much of the case against homosexuality has a religious slant.

If I were not religous, there would still be arguements against homosexuality (public health for one, among others; it not being natural, many people still find it a sensitive issue regardless of religion etc).

To be perfectly honest, I would almost definitely still vote against gay marriage, and gay adoption, but would take a more indifferent approach to the entire affair. Either way, if gay marriage were instigated tomorrow, I would not take to the streets in protest - even being religiously inclined to disagree with it.

1. What is the public health issue? I'm guessing HIV/AIDS? If so, how is unprotected homosexual sex any different than unprotected heterosexual sex? HIV/AIDS is a huge problem in parts of Africa regardless of sexuality, and is mostly due to a lack of health resources and safe sex education.

2. Homosexuality occurs naturally in various animal species, thus it is natural. Homosexuality is no more "unnatural" than red-hair, or green eyes.

3. Please elaborate on this "sensitive issue" argument, and why it holds any validity at all?

 

[Name_Taken]

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Coward???
I would join the intitial wave of knee-jerk opposition, then take on something quieter and more dignified like silent group protests by candle light every week at the relevant local authority

I can't even vote yet...

I'll be much more of an active citizen once I graduate from high school and can actually play a more substancial role in how this country is governed.

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

I can't even vote yet...

I'll be much more of an active citizen once I graduate from high school and can actually play a more substancial role in how this country is governed.

Ohhhh are you gunna be a politician?

 

[Name_Taken]

1. What is the public health issue? I'm guessing HIV/AIDS? If so, how is unprotected homosexual sex any different than unprotected heterosexual sex? HIV/AIDS is a huge problem in parts of Africa regardless of sexuality, and is mostly due to a lack of health resources and safe sex education.

2. Homosexuality occurs naturally in various animal species, thus it is natural. Homosexuality is no more "unnatural" than red-hair, or green eyes.

3. Please elaborate on this "sensitive issue" argument, and why it holds any validity at all?

All of them have been covered in the last 50 odd pages. I honeslty can't be bothered retyping everything I've been saying over and over (you're definately not the only person asking the same questions).

If you want more info, post after you've finished reading and I'll give you some links.

 

[Will Shakespear]

Nah, but they should both be stoned to death, ya know?

your book of fairy tales is completely useless for working out any kind of worthwhile moral framework

your views are just weak attempts at justifying bigotry

"it's not natural"

oh, like air conditioning? or cars? or houses?

or homosexuality in animals?

Satan tempts albatross too

 

[red-butterfly]

Name_taken... seriously... the fact that your pushing your beliefs on to others...

you're all about judging a person based on their sexuality. you should stop judging and try to accept the fact that the world is changing and being far more progressive than any of the churches or religious places.

You're going to ahve to accept it ok!~?

 

[Iron]

@nametaken
You will be hated by all because of my name. But not a hair of your head will perish. By your endurance you will gain your souls.

 

[Name_Taken]

Why aren't they nowadays?

IDK Maybe society is just too soft on crims these day? "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone" is a good enough reason for me not to...

Ohhhh are you gunna be a politician?

Haha I wouldn't mind to, I want to go into law first (if I even go into politics). Would you vote for me?

 

[Will Shakespear]

I admit that much of the case against homosexuality has a religious slant.

If I were not religous, there would still be arguements against homosexuality (public health for one, among others; it not being natural, many people still find it a sensitive issue regardless of religion etc).

To be perfectly honest, I would almost definitely still vote against gay marriage, and gay adoption, but would take a more indifferent approach to the entire affair. Either way, if gay marriage were instigated tomorrow, I would not take to the streets in protest - even being religiously inclined to disagree with it.

rofl public health

public health is the #1 argument against... the fucking catholic church

CONDOMS SPREAD AIDS

 

[Name_Taken]

Name_taken... seriously... the fact that your pushing your beliefs on to others...

you're all about judging a person based on their sexuality. you should stop judging and try to accept the fact that the world is changing and being far more progressive than any of the churches or religious places.

You're going to ahve to accept it ok!~?

You have got to be joking....

Can't you see that they are preaching to society and people with religious morals such as myself that homosexuality is ok, and natural and a healthy alternative?

They are just as much forcing their belief on me and the Church as you claim I am on them.

I don't judge anyone on their sexuality, one of my friends as school is gay, I havn't ex-communicated him at all (though he knows where I stand).

Change is not always for good.

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

IDK Maybe society is just too soft on crims these day? "Let he who has not sinned cast the first stone" is a good enough reason for me not to...

So you agree they should be stoned?

Haha I wouldn't mind to, I want to go into law first (if I even go into politics). Would you vote for me?

If you'll be a gay rights activist.

 

[BlackDragon]

This change is.

 

[Ethanescence]

All of them have been covered in the last 50 odd pages. I honeslty can't be bothered retyping everything I've been saying over and over (you're definately not the only person asking the same questions).

If you want more info, post after you've finished reading and I'll give you some links.

If your secular arguments are logical and coherent, you should be able to summarise them in one post, or at the very least reply to the other questions I asked in my reply to your vague and unconvincing reasons.

You not being bothered to argue your point really only shows how unsubstantiated your arguments are, and how you lack the ability to convey logical arguments in opposition to homosexuality.

You can't be bothered to convey logical arguments, yet you constantly spew your unfounded negative view of homosexuality? It seems that you are really only using religion as a facade for your own bigotry towards homosexuality - rather than opposing homosexuality as part of your religious beliefs.

 

[Will Shakespear]

You have got to be joking....

Can't you see that they are preaching to society and people with religious morals such as myself that homosexuality is ok, and natural and a healthy alternative?

They are just as much forcing their belief on me and the Church as you claim I am on them.

I don't judge anyone on their sexuality, one of my friends as school is gay, I havn't ex-communicated him at all (though he knows where I stand).

Change is not always for good.

Who the hell are "they"?

Guess what, homosexuality is natural, it occurs in nature, people are born gay, fucking deal with it.

Giving people the right to marry isn't forcing anything on you, unless you can explain how it is?

 

[BlackDragon]

Who the hell are "they"?

Guess what, homosexuality is natural, it occurs in nature, people are born gay, fucking deal with it.

Giving people the right to marry isn't forcing anything on you, unless you can explain how it is?

Yes. It is common for male chimpanzees to masturbate each other.

 

[SeCKSiiMiNh]

Can't you see that they are preaching to society and people with religious morals such as myself that homosexuality is ok, and natural and a healthy alternative?

You do realise there is no other alternative for homosexuals right?