Why the hate on pharmacy? (2 Viewers)

[supercalamari]

hmm, is there a mrs sam5?

ha

 

[sam5]

Where do you work?

why is that?

 

[sam5]

hmm, is there a mrs sam5?

huh?

 

[Taketheatrain]

why is that?

So I can stalk you.

 

[shuttle_bus5]

From what ive heard, pharmacy is the most mind numbing job ever. And apparently you only ever actually use 10% of what you learn.

 

[fishfingerz]

what youse are one about is community pharmacy, there are different branches, just as their are to medicine:

Specialisations:

Community Pharmacist

A community pharmacist involved in dispensing prescriptions, providing advice on drug selection and usage to doctors and other health professionals, providing primary healthcare advice and support, and educating customers on health promotion, disease prevention and the proper use of medicines. They usually have a high level of contact with the public.
Consultant Pharmacist

A consultant pharmacist either employed by community pharmacies or hospitals, or self-employed and contracts with community pharmacies to provide medication reviews for residential care or ambulatory care patients and/or other medication related cognitive services.
Government Pharmacist

A government pharmacist involved with regulatory control of pharmaceutical and medical products at state, territory or federal level.
Hospital Pharmacist

A hospital pharmacist operates as part of a healthcare team and is involved in monitoring medication usage, counselling patients, providing drug information and advice to health professionals and the community, conducting clinical trials and preparing products for patient use. They usually have a lot of contact with other health professionals and members of the public.
Industrial Pharmacist

An industrial pharmacist involved in research and the development, manufacture, testing, analysis and marketing of pharmaceutical and medical products.




i'm most likely gonna be doing either of the last 2. won't make it to usyd so charles sturt is my only option.



also, for those that have done the course, does anyone know how much chemistry is actually involved? like will u need to know hsc chem?

 

[shuttle_bus5]

what youse are one about is community pharmacy, there are different branches, just as their are to medicine:

Specialisations:

Community Pharmacist

A community pharmacist involved in dispensing prescriptions, providing advice on drug selection and usage to doctors and other health professionals, providing primary healthcare advice and support, and educating customers on health promotion, disease prevention and the proper use of medicines. They usually have a high level of contact with the public.
Consultant Pharmacist

A consultant pharmacist either employed by community pharmacies or hospitals, or self-employed and contracts with community pharmacies to provide medication reviews for residential care or ambulatory care patients and/or other medication related cognitive services.
Government Pharmacist

A government pharmacist involved with regulatory control of pharmaceutical and medical products at state, territory or federal level.
Hospital Pharmacist

A hospital pharmacist operates as part of a healthcare team and is involved in monitoring medication usage, counselling patients, providing drug information and advice to health professionals and the community, conducting clinical trials and preparing products for patient use. They usually have a lot of contact with other health professionals and members of the public.
Industrial Pharmacist

An industrial pharmacist involved in research and the development, manufacture, testing, analysis and marketing of pharmaceutical and medical products.




i'm most likely gonna be doing either of the last 2. won't make it to usyd so charles sturt is my only option.



also, for those that have done the course, does anyone know how much chemistry is actually involved? like will u need to know hsc chem?

Goodluck finding a job on those two specialisations.
You will be out smarted and out classed by chemistry majors and chem engineers.

 

[fishfingerz]

Goodluck finding a job on those two specialisations.
You will be out smarted and out classed by chemistry majors and chem engineers.

well i haven't decided yet..i will just talk to people working in the field and then decide i guess.
70-100k aint bad as well. but most teachers earn more than that with less hrs. hmm..i guess i still don't know what to do yet. :s

 

[shuttle_bus5]

well i haven't decided yet..i will just talk to people working in the field and then decide i guess.
70-100k aint bad as well. but most teachers earn more than that with less hrs. hmm..i guess i still don't know what to do yet. :s

If you have an interest in chemistry i recommend doing chemical engineering.
One of my mates brothers works for a pharmaceutical company and earns huge $$$$$

 

[fishfingerz]

If you have an interest in chemistry i recommend doing chemical engineering.
One of my mates brothers works for a pharmaceutical company and earns huge $$$$$

u have to apply for those don't u? and can't u work for them with a b of pharmacy?
and chemical engineering is in the 90+ atar range aint it? yeah i don't think i could get that. plus i enjoy chem but not good at it. i will do med science and sit the gamsat and try and get into med from there. if not then i will transfer and do pharmacy.

 

[shuttle_bus5]

u have to apply for those don't u? and can't u work for them with a b of pharmacy?
and chemical engineering is in the 90+ atar range aint it? yeah i don't think i could get that. plus i enjoy chem but not good at it. i will do med science and sit the gamsat and try and get into med from there. if not then i will transfer and do pharmacy.

You can work in that industry but won't get anywhere near the $$$'s as the engineers.
Chem engineering isn't that high....

 

[fishfingerz]

and what course are u doing at uni, shuttle bus5?

 

[shuttle_bus5]

and what course are u doing at uni, shuttle bus5?

Engineering/commerce

 

[whoisthis]

And I heard that they don't even need to use most of the stuff they learn at uni.

Though I think the pay is pretty good.

honestly why would you post things you have no idea about? the pay for pharmacy will pretty much never get above 100k, even if you own your own pharmacy. long contact hours at uni, generally longer than average course, poor job outcomes, etc. that is why people hate on pharmacy. sure that's above average pay, but the hours just suck and it's a lot of mind numbingly boring tasks.

another reason for the hate is probs cos it's full of asian med rejects who start pharmacy without ever realising what the career actually involves (e.g. they don't realise it's NOTHING like med, they will not get treated like mini doctors and once they realise it they regret picking the course). i have no evidence for this other than personal experience. asians love pharmacy. a few of my friends went interstate for pharmacy which is just retarded. seems to be a cultural thing. the "next best thing" after med when in reality it's much much worse. it's still not the worse choice of a course, but it is certainly a step down from med in terms of job prospects and many people start it without realising what it ever involves. stupid asian parents.

 

[chrisnumber1]

honestly why would you post things you have no idea about? the pay for pharmacy will pretty much never get above 100k, even if you own your own pharmacy. long contact hours at uni, generally longer than average course, poor job outcomes, etc. that is why people hate on pharmacy. sure that's above average pay, but the hours just suck and it's a lot of mind numbingly boring tasks.

another reason for the hate is probs cos it's full of asian med rejects who start pharmacy without ever realising what the career actually involves (e.g. they don't realise it's NOTHING like med, they will not get treated like mini doctors and once they realise it they regret picking the course). i have no evidence for this other than personal experience. asians love pharmacy. a few of my friends went interstate for pharmacy which is just retarded. seems to be a cultural thing. the "next best thing" after med when in reality it's much much worse. it's still not the worse choice of a course, but it is certainly a step down from med in terms of job prospects and many people start it without realising what it ever involves. stupid asian parents.

how many careers are not a step down from med though? btw i agree with majority of what you said, but i have a friend who does it and knows exactly what it involves and does not/could not do med ever....no offence to him

 

[Together]

what youse are one about is community pharmacy, there are different branches, just as their are to medicine:

Specialisations:

Community Pharmacist

A community pharmacist involved in dispensing prescriptions, providing advice on drug selection and usage to doctors and other health professionals, providing primary healthcare advice and support, and educating customers on health promotion, disease prevention and the proper use of medicines. They usually have a high level of contact with the public.
Consultant Pharmacist

A consultant pharmacist either employed by community pharmacies or hospitals, or self-employed and contracts with community pharmacies to provide medication reviews for residential care or ambulatory care patients and/or other medication related cognitive services.
Government Pharmacist

A government pharmacist involved with regulatory control of pharmaceutical and medical products at state, territory or federal level.
Hospital Pharmacist

A hospital pharmacist operates as part of a healthcare team and is involved in monitoring medication usage, counselling patients, providing drug information and advice to health professionals and the community, conducting clinical trials and preparing products for patient use. They usually have a lot of contact with other health professionals and members of the public.
Industrial Pharmacist

An industrial pharmacist involved in research and the development, manufacture, testing, analysis and marketing of pharmaceutical and medical products.




i'm most likely gonna be doing either of the last 2. won't make it to usyd so charles sturt is my only option.



also, for those that have done the course, does anyone know how much chemistry is actually involved? like will u need to know hsc chem?

hm just wondering... is usyd pharmacy hard to get into? and are u basing it on ur school or marks that u wont make it to usyd. charles sturt is a far commute if u ask me.

 

[Dr_Fresh]

back in my high school days, i used to think they prepare doses and courses of drugs for people. but definitely not the case, they are the physicians' bitches pretty much. the physicians prescribe the drugs, the pharmacists gets it and gives it to the patient and processes the payment. i really dont understand y u need to do a 4 year degree to learn how to take a drug from the shelf and give it to some1. its not like they need to understand how the drug works, which diseases the drugs treat or which drugs cant be given together etc. its the doctors who do that. doctors are the kings/queens, pharmacists are the pawns.
EDIT: bishops, knights, rooks are ppl like nurses, physiotherapists, optometrists etc

 

[superchargedmr2]

back in my high school days, i used to think they prepare doses and courses of drugs for people. but definitely not the case, they are the physicians' bitches pretty much. the physicians prescribe the drugs, the pharmacists gets it and gives it to the patient and processes the payment. i really dont understand y u need to do a 4 year degree to learn how to take a drug from the shelf and give it to some1. its not like they need to understand how the drug works, which diseases the drugs treat or which drugs cant be given together etc. its the doctors who do that. doctors are the kings/queens, pharmacists are the pawns.
EDIT: bishops, knights, rooks are ppl like nurses, physiotherapists, optometrists etc

Actually you are way off. It IS the pharmacists that need to know which drugs can't be given together. The pharmacists are the drug specialists NOT the doctors. The pharmacists also know MUCH more about how the drugs work than doctors. It would be impossible for med school to cover the entire body AND all the drug treatments and that's where pharmacists come in.

 

[Bacilli]

back in my high school days, i used to think they prepare doses and courses of drugs for people. but definitely not the case, they are the physicians' bitches pretty much. the physicians prescribe the drugs, the pharmacists gets it and gives it to the patient and processes the payment. i really dont understand y u need to do a 4 year degree to learn how to take a drug from the shelf and give it to some1. its not like they need to understand how the drug works, which diseases the drugs treat or which drugs cant be given together etc. its the doctors who do that. doctors are the kings/queens, pharmacists are the pawns.
EDIT: bishops, knights, rooks are ppl like nurses, physiotherapists, optometrists etc

Listen, it's getting to a point where the doctors are the pawns. You do what you're told, or it's your license. Simple. If you prescribe too much of the one medication, even if you believe you're doing your job to the best of your ability and within guidelines, you will be investigated. For example, Jill comes to see you and 4-5 years prior she had broken her leg, yet here she is asking for pain medication because she complains of pain within the area of the knee. Therefore you prescribe a codeine mixture (e.g. Panadiene Forte).... various other individuals over the years have also visited your practice, both long term patients and short-term. Within say 2 years the amount of codeine you've prescribed to patients exceeds that which NSWHealth would consider appropriate, therefore you're investigated. You prolly wont lose your license however you're investigated... do you get my point? Doctors are so frakn vulnerable even when their decisions are correct that the idea of being a physician gives me a serious pain in the chest... so in the end who loses? Well, it's the patient. Because here we have with my fine example above physicians who will not do their jobs properly because Mr. NSWHealth is always looking down ensuring you're doing what they want.

Yep, you prolly disagree but I know you're in denile... you're not free to practice medicine, you're jailed to do what others expect... and that's it, making the Docs. the pawns. On the other hand, we have the pharmacist who is accountable for their stock... that's it. They put the wrong meds in the basket and they're accountable... that's it...

I agree, within the boundary of health superiority Docs. are the kings but NSWhealth are the players. And we all should know that the players can move anything right? Sad but true...

 

[supercalamari]

honestly why would you post things you have no idea about? the pay for pharmacy will pretty much never get above 100k, even if you own your own pharmacy. long contact hours at uni, generally longer than average course, poor job outcomes, etc. that is why people hate on pharmacy. sure that's above average pay, but the hours just suck and it's a lot of mind numbingly boring tasks.

another reason for the hate is probs cos it's full of asian med rejects who start pharmacy without ever realising what the career actually involves (e.g. they don't realise it's NOTHING like med, they will not get treated like mini doctors and once they realise it they regret picking the course). i have no evidence for this other than personal experience. asians love pharmacy. a few of my friends went interstate for pharmacy which is just retarded. seems to be a cultural thing. the "next best thing" after med when in reality it's much much worse. it's still not the worse choice of a course, but it is certainly a step down from med in terms of job prospects and many people start it without realising what it ever involves. stupid asian parents.

My cousin did pharmacy for three years, hated it, did a Dip Ed. and now enjoys being a teacher. Weird, I know...