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I'm now in year 12 but in year 11 I moved from a public high school to a selective high school (Girraween) and our tests are considerably harder than those sat by normal high schools. BUT this got me thinking, my ranks aren't all flash and my marks are relatively low to those I achieved at my old school, so will this negatively impact on my HSC or will the BoS consider my participation in a selective school?



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I'm now in year 12 but in year 11 I moved from a public high school to a selective high school (Girraween) and our tests are considerably harder than those sat by normal high schools. BUT this got me thinking, my ranks aren't all flash and my marks are relatively low to those I achieved at my old school, so will this negatively impact on my HSC or will the BoS consider my participation in a selective school?



Advise greatly appreciated :)

Subjects:
Adv. English
Adv. Maths
Business
Legal
Music
Engineering Studies

P.S I'm going to drop legal after 1/2 yearlies​
Advantages of selective schools:
-Psychological advantage: If everyone else around you works hard, they become your benchmark and you might find the strength to become a hard worker yourself.
-Teachers are usually more motivated because there is less assholes who dont want to learn to contend with
-Smart students are able to discuss and help each other learn or share resources
-As you said, the internal tests are harder, which basically gives you a thicker skin and makes tackling the questions in the external exams easier
-If you fuck up in the external exams, your school cohort essentially acts as 'insurance', limiting the effect of your bad external mark (this is due to how the scaling system works, hard to explain)

No, the board of studies won't give you special consideration just because you chose to change schools. they will give you special consideration for things OUTSIDE YOUR CONTROL, which you can PROVE beyond reasonable doubt that it made a tangible effect on your study.

If you're feeling a lack of motivation due to school, dont! brighten up and hang in there!
 

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Instead of worrying about all these, it'd be more productive for you to work as hard and as smart as you can. That's the way to get your best outcome.
 

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Thanks for your feedback Sinophile +Rep
 

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Anyways OP, HSC is determined by a number of factors, rank and what shit not, but is also determined by the MEAN OF YOUR CLASS - THE AVERAGE MARK FOR A SUBJECT. Think of it as an elastic band. The mean in a selective school is naturally high due to smart people, therefore the rubber band will stretch forward- thus it will PULL EVERYONE UP. See you are being benefited by the high mean of your classess. It doesn't matter if you are BELOW THE AVERAGE/MEAN, as long as there is not a significant difference between your marks and the average, you can ride along the wave of smartness to a higher ATAR.

If this helped please, can ya rep me brah?
 

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i sort of agree and disagree with what sinophile is saying.

Advantages of selective schools:
-Psychological advantage: If everyone else around you works hard, they become your benchmark and you might find the strength to become a hard worker yourself.
since you just moved from a public school to a selective school, you should be a very capable student regardless your ranks. so dont worry about it as the hsc has just started and you can always climb back up.

-Smart students are able to discuss and help each other learn or share resources
that really depends on the cohort. if your friends arent really generous and sharing resources, that wont help at all.

-Teachers are usually more motivated because there is less assholes who dont want to learn to contend with
-As you said, the internal tests are harder, which basically gives you a thicker skin and makes tackling the questions in the external exams easier
-If you fuck up in the external exams, your school cohort essentially acts as 'insurance', limiting the effect of your bad external mark (this is due to how the scaling system works, hard to explain)
agree with the rest.
 

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I do think there is an advantage. There's a higher benchmark and this benchmark exponentially grows in progression leading up to the hsc. By the end of it, You guys will be way higher than the state average.
 

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