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should we ban sports that have a history of causing death
I'd be hesitant to but on the whole society would probably be richer for it. That being said, a moment ago I made very clear that I'm ok with alcohol but not with smoking so your question is a bit retarded.
 

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your views are a bit retarded

ok with alcohol but not smoking even though alcohol has a much higher cost to society

no one has ever crashed their car after smoking and driving
 

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lentern you are a stupid cunt





ban religion as no one gains any quantative utility from it
 

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your views are a bit retarded

ok with alcohol but not smoking even though alcohol has a much higher cost to society

no one has ever crashed their car after smoking and driving
I'm open to more reading but at the moment I'm treating figures that suggest alcohol is more damaging to society than Tobacco as rubbery at best.
 

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It only gets violent if you use force first, otherwise they just escort you nicely into a little box with bars.
trying to remain in the same location is not an initiation of force
 

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trying to remain in the same location is not an initiation of force
I'm happy for you to call it a deprivation of freedom or wrongful imprisonment but violence is just stupid rhetoric, they aren't gonna start whacking you or shooting you.
 

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i can assure you that if you refuse to comply with a move on order or to voluntarily move when under arrest, you will be assaulted and forced to the ground
 

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i can assure you that if you refuse to comply with a move on order or to voluntarily move when under arrest, you will be assaulted and forced to the ground
Oh come on, I mean I don't want to pretend I speak for ordinary people but for five minutes can we accept that contrary to the fundamentalism that dominates this place, most people accept a little trade off of freedom.
 

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nope most people i know loathe the police but dont read enough to know of any better system. one that doesnt infringe on their freedom so much
 

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anyway cunt, just admit that you said something stupid (again) and move on

police can and will use force on you if you do not move from the position you are to another arbitrary position
 

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anyway cunt, just admit that you said something stupid (again) and move on

police can and will use force on you if you do not move from the position you are to another arbitrary position
What planet are you from?
 

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Yeah heaps of people I know hate cops but they don't really have a reason for it

And they also complain about "boat people" so they're not really going to find any intelligent alternatives to the welfare state we have now
 

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most people i know dont really like the police either but they arent libertarians and prob never would be ever

its not so much the concept of the police that annoys them but rather the way the police around here act (pricks)
 

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