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It is depressing to read that more than 25 years since the introduction of the Sex Discrimination Act, and when universities are pumping out more female graduates than ever before, allegations of sexual harassment are being made by a young lawyer, Bridgette Styles, against a large Sydney law firm.
Many of us who have worked in law firms would love to say we are surprised by the news but, sadly, actual and anecdotal evidence would suggest such behaviour remains a part of life in a firm for many women.
When I was working in a large law firm in the early 1990s, some partners would take all the male lawyers in their team to lunch, leaving the female solicitors (with the secretaries) sitting at their desks with a sandwich.


Pregnant with my first child, I didn't get an annual pay rise that was awarded to all my peers. When I whinged to a male colleague the same age, he said in all seriousness, ''Well, why would you? You're leaving to have a baby.''

In a deeply competitive, dog-eat-dog environment, where a colleague's desk could be cleared overnight, we were too scared to challenge demeaning and insulting inequities.
The mantra fed to all young lawyers, who in turn learnt to behave like victims of Stockholm syndrome, was that we should feel so very grateful for having earned a place in such a prestigious workplace. We knew intuitively that complaining about conditions could lead to sacking, and most women lawyers would no doubt agree they felt the more vulnerable gender.

For many practising in the 1990s, Marea Hickey's decision to prosecute her case against Hunt & Hunt, when her fellow partners denied her the right to return to work on a part-time basis after maternity leave, was a seminal moment, especially for female lawyers.

It would, however, be fair to say that many of us paused, took a breath, and hoped like hell that women lawyers would not then be marginalised and perceived as a litigious impediment in the workplace.

Thankfully, conditions have improved. While some of the change in attitude is attributable to legislative reforms that have forced law firms - like all businesses - to adjust their employment practices, many firms have taken the initiative to actively develop ''family-friendly'' policies. They appear to have had an epiphany, realising that training, and then losing, some their brightest women is detrimental to the business model and ultimately to their reputation.

As recently as this year, however, I heard of a case where a young (recently engaged) woman making budget was being managed out of an underperforming practice group in a large firm. In terminating her employment, the male partner told her that losing her job would not be the end of the world because she would soon be married and at home having babies. No doubt her colleagues who survived the cut stayed silent, smugly congratulating themselves for being tougher, smarter and better employees, and thus perpetuating the means-of-survival myth.
It is not unusual for relationships to form in the workplace, especially when colleagues work long hours, side by side. Law firms have always been notorious hotbeds for brief - and long-term - partnerships of the biblical kind. Feisty Friday night drinks are commonplace and other firm social functions often end with more than a hint of debauchery.

In the wash-up from these events, the water cooler talk the next dusty morning still tends to focus on flirtatious, drunken behaviour by women lawyers, not the men, when we all know it takes two to tango. What seems to be a badge of honour for a man is still a woman lawyer scorned.

Speaking out against injustices in any workplace takes courage, and for a young woman such as Styles to take on the might of a law firm - which has an obligation to know better under the Law Society's rules for maintaining a valid practising certificate - is a gutsy call. Especially when she, and many others before her, must be profoundly aware that even a judicial win may amount to a pyrrhic victory.



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I hope this case will strike fear into the heart of every male in my industry - advertising. Like law, it's full of people who do know better, but still act as if their behaviour will never catch up with them. Go Bridgette.
Male and female equality in most workplaces will continue to be a myth perpetrated by the powerful male establishment to placate those ambitious women who fail to understand their place in society - I mean, how dare we want the same treatment as our male counterparts? What are we thinking?

What day in age are we living in? People need to harden the fuck up and stop using religious, gender and racial discrimination as an excuse for everything that goes wrong in their life.

I was talking about this issue with my mum (who was at one point a nurse in Saudi Arabia to one of the princes there) and she said men in the industry (doctors, etc) would often make moves on them and make sly comments. She essentially said 'just tell them to fuck off' or ignore it. Today, however, we need to sue the boss who put his hand on your shoulder at the Christmas party or sue your company because a guy got the promotion over you.

Fuck you, modern world.
 

Chemical Ali

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If I was starting a small business and putting my whole livelihood at stake, I'd be pretty nervous about hiring women
 

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id hire some bros
same ethnicity as me
similar interests etc

no women
no blacks
no muslims
etc

they may not work as efficiently as others but the chances of being litigated against is lower imo
 

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i work part-time at a small discount broker (only about 5 of us here) and the guy who owns it said he wouldn't hire a woman until he had at least 50 employees (which is never going to happen).
 

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id hire some bros
same ethnicity as me
similar interests etc

no women
no blacks
no muslims
etc

they may not work as efficiently as others but the chances of being litigated against is lower imo
what about getting litigated against for not having these things

then again it prob goes under the radar till you start getting big
 

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id hire some bros
same ethnicity as me
similar interests etc

no women
no blacks
no muslims
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they may not work as efficiently as others but the chances of being litigated against is lower imo
what about bro rape?
 

Jimmy Recard

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yeah well what you do is whenever you have applicants for a position, if a woman turns out to be best for the job, then no one is and you readvertise
 

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well that is fair enough
but if i owned a bar/cafe/clothing store then not hiring any womenz would likely be detrimental to my cause/i like being around women
 

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article in the economist (?) i read the other day about how more attractive bar/cafe workers correlate with poor economic times
 

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yes

anyway i only just realised the title was sexist not sexiest
thought op was being silly because this is a silly issue
 

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