Do Year 11 marks and ranks go towards anything? (2 Viewers)

[enoilgam]

You can drop from advanced to standard at the end of year 11 and in the first few weeks of year 11. However, going from standard to advanced is much more difficult in the first few weeks and near impossible at the end of year 11. Just give it a go protract, it wont harm your ATAR as much as doing standard. Believe me, I know many people who picked standard because they hated english and thought they werent good at it, and regretted it when they got their HSC results. I absolutely loathed and hated english as well, but I dont regret doing advanced for a second.

 

[SpiralFlex]

To be honest, I don't think I'm as smart as everyone makes me out to be....everyone thinks I am smart because I look like it, because I'm quiet, because I never cause any troubles...but really...I'm not, I don't think so. And ppl on the internet think I have something special for some reason....

I can sense great potential in you. I think it's about time you use it.

 

[Shadowdude]

but getting a 90+ in standard is fucking hard.

Exactly, so he should pick Advanced.

But I'm terrible at English. How is coming last in Adv English going to help my ATAR? And when I say terrible, I mean HORRIBLE. Like, if it wasn't cumpulsory, I wouldn't do it not even if someone held a gun to my head. My ranks will suffer big time in Adv English.

You're not reading about the Pygmalion effect... <_<

 

[SpiralFlex]

Exactly, so he should pick Advanced.



You're not reading about the Pygmalion effect... <_<

Very true.

 

[Protract]

Schools never talk to us about this stuff, they just say "Pick what you like and what you're capable of." They never tell us about the aligning of Standard English, I never even knew about it until I came here.

 

[SpiralFlex]

Schools never talk to us about this stuff, they just say "Pick what you like and what you're capable of." They never tell us about the aligning of Standard English, I never even knew about it until I came here.

Research = key

You will need to demonstrate you are capable of handling Advanced to your teacher. Show him/her you want to learn and are very keen. Show them you would do anything. Keep persisting and soon you shall be a great warrior.

 

[powlmao]

No, no, no. Your school is right, you should pick subjects you like.


Remember you can get any ATAR with any set of subjects

 

[Shadowdude]

Schools never talk to us about this stuff, they just say "Pick what you like and what you're capable of." They never tell us about the aligning of Standard English, I never even knew about it until I came here.

Well, why would they tell you about crap aligning of Standard English? It'd just demoralise people or force people into Advanced who really, really can't do the subject and just waste everyone's time - and have no motivation to do well or work in it.

 

[powlmao]

Well, why would they tell you about crap aligning of Standard English? It'd just demoralise people or force people into Advanced who really, really can't do the subject and just waste everyone's time - and have no motivation to do well or work in it.

Schools should promote picking subjects students like not subjects which scale well.

 

[enoilgam]

Schools serve their own agenda. When it comes to the HSC, I find that schools either give out poor advice, or they manipulate the facts to suit their point of view

 

[powlmao]

Schools serve their own agenda. When it comes to the HSC, I find the schools give out poor advice to their students

If schools explain how subjects scale well it would push Students who cannot do it into those subjects therefore it wastes students who can do it and teachers time

 

[Gigacube]

If schools explain how subjects scale well it would push Students who cannot do it into those subjects therefore it wastes students who can do it and teachers time

My school explains the scaling system in year 12.

 

[enoilgam]

Well at my school, they tried manipulating people to remain in SOR one and two by giving us data which indicated that it scales as well as 4 unit maths. Quite obviously, that isnt true. One teacher at our school however did tell us about the poor aligning of standard when we were in her year 10 class

 

[powlmao]

My school explains the scaling system in year 12.

That is when it is needed.

Picking HSC subjects you really need to pick subjects you like and schools should influence that.

 

[RookieLaw]

Our schools never explained it to us, majority of us figured it out on our own.

 

[Shadowdude]

Well at my school, they tried manipulating people to remain in SOR one and two by giving us data which indicated that it scales as well as 4 unit maths

lolwat How did they do that?

 

[LoveHateSchool]

My school addresses scaling but strongly says it shouldn't affect your decisions. They tend to try and advise people into subjects they are suited to, like they tell people doing physics, they should at least be doing 2U mathematics, if not EX1. People choose to go against their advice though.

 

[Protract]

But if doing if it is a huge disadvantage, we have the right to know. Not everyone will come on BOS to research to find out. I have learnt not to believe everything that people say, and do my own research; there are plenty of people who get spoonfed. I heard some people at my school saying "Standard is no good, it scales really down." And a lot of people don't even know that the difference between Standard and Advanced is not that big at all, they assume it's the difference between like 4U Maths and 2U Maths. The other subjects I'm doing next year

Extension 1 Mathematics

Legal Studies

Ancient History / French Begginers

Chemistry/Physics

One other 1 Unit course

 

[enoilgam]

They gave us a sheet with data and information which was written in such a way that it seemed like SOR scaled as much as 4 unit. It was a catholic school and they didnt want people dropping to Catholic studies in year 12. It worked, because many people believed it.

I agree with protract, people have the right to know about how subjects scale and align.

 

[SpiralFlex]

But if doing if it is a huge disadvantage, we have the right to know. Not everyone will come on BOS to research to find out. I have learnt not to believe everything that people say, and do my own research; there are plenty of people who get spoonfed. I heard some people at my school saying "Standard is no good, it scales really down." And a lot of people don't even know that the difference between Standard and Advanced is not that big at all, they assume it's the difference between like 4U Maths and 2U Maths. The other subjects I'm doing next year

Extension 1 Mathematics

Legal Studies

Ancient History / French Begginers

Chemistry/Physics

One other 1 Unit course

Your subjects are already of great scaling.