• YOU can help the next generation of students in the community!
    Share your trial papers and notes on our Notes & Resources page

Complex No. (1 Viewer)

nightweaver066

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 7, 2010
Messages
1,585
Gender
Male
HSC
2012
If tanR is positive (finding principal argument), then its going to be in the 3rd quadrant and you're going to be working with negative radians -pi < x < -pi/2.

If tanR is negative, then you have to look at which quadrant the complex graph lies on the Argand diagram to determine which quadrant out of the first, second and fourth quadrant it's in.

What i like to do is that whenever i find an angle, i always convert it to its acute form and then determine whether i need to take it away from 180 or add it to something.
 

Aysce

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 24, 2011
Messages
2,394
Gender
Male
HSC
2012
Ahh okay thanks I GET IT AT LAST :D !
 

Drongoski

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 22, 2009
Messages
4,253
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Ahh okay thanks I GET IT AT LAST :D !
It's a lot easier than that.

Because the principal argument needs to satisfy:
whenever the complex number is in 3rd or 4th quadrant, you figure out the argument (angle) backwards, i,e, clockwise, from the positive x-axis,. For z = -1-i, you get 3pi/4, and when figuring out angle clockwise, the angle is negative: so it's -3pi/4. You don't need to add to or subtract from pi or 180 deg.
 
Last edited:

Omnipotence

Kendrick Lamar
Joined
Feb 7, 2009
Messages
5,327
Location
Sydney
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
Uni Grad
2016
Picture where would lie on the Argand diagram. -1 would mean you go to the left of the Origin one unit, and means you go below the origin by one unit. This puts the coordinate in the 3rd quadrant, and since you go from you get the Argument as being , which can be simplified.
Nope. Its .
 

Omnipotence

Kendrick Lamar
Joined
Feb 7, 2009
Messages
5,327
Location
Sydney
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
Uni Grad
2016
Nope, once you do a few questions - it becomes really repetitive.
 

Hermes1

Banned
Joined
Oct 4, 2010
Messages
1,282
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
ur first test, complex numbers is going to feel slightly uneasy. but when u get into a bit more, it becomes shit easy. in the end, all it is is question 2 of the hsc exam. u shuld be aiming to ace the complex section of ur trials and hsc.
 

bleakarcher

Active Member
Joined
Jul 8, 2011
Messages
1,509
Gender
Male
HSC
2013
wat would u say is harder volumez or complex number? for me, volumez were at first rather intimidating, im not sure about complex numberz
 

Omnipotence

Kendrick Lamar
Joined
Feb 7, 2009
Messages
5,327
Location
Sydney
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
Uni Grad
2016
Volumes requires a perfect sketch and the solution should really flow out from there. I have/had problems with Conics.
 

Hermes1

Banned
Joined
Oct 4, 2010
Messages
1,282
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
wat would u say is harder volumez or complex number? for me, volumez were at first rather intimidating, im not sure about complex numberz
volumes can be hard if they want to make it hard. but they usually dont. so u always see volumes round bout Q3-4 and one slightly difficult one at q6.
i reckon they r both relatively easy.
 

Omnipotence

Kendrick Lamar
Joined
Feb 7, 2009
Messages
5,327
Location
Sydney
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
Uni Grad
2016
Easy. Extended from 3U intergration. (Q1s of HSC and Trial)
 

Hermes1

Banned
Joined
Oct 4, 2010
Messages
1,282
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
ah ok, thanks hermes. wat about integration?
Integration is the topic u want to get full marks for in ur paper. i mean the only way u could find it difficult is if u get a question like i had in my 4U trial (ill PM it to u when i get it bak) which was a reduction formula question.

also be wary of little tricks like reverse chain rule. also have an attempt at this question:



using integration by parts.
 

Shadowdude

Cult of Personality
Joined
Sep 19, 2009
Messages
12,145
Gender
Male
HSC
2010
Integration is the topic u want to get full marks for in ur paper. i mean the only way u could find it difficult is if u get a question like i had in my 4U trial (ill PM it to u when i get it bak) which was a reduction formula question.

also be wary of little tricks like reverse chain rule. also have an attempt at this question:



using integration by parts.
Set x = a tan(u), right?
 

Shadowdude

Cult of Personality
Joined
Sep 19, 2009
Messages
12,145
Gender
Male
HSC
2010
If you set x = a tan(u) - not sec(u), my bad! You fudge it until you get a sec^3 integral I believe, and that's when you use parts.
 

Hermes1

Banned
Joined
Oct 4, 2010
Messages
1,282
Gender
Male
HSC
2011
If you set x = a tan(u) - not sec(u), my bad! You fudge it until you get a sec^3 integral I believe, and that's when you use parts.
you cant do that. u hav to use parts from the outset.
 

bleakarcher

Active Member
Joined
Jul 8, 2011
Messages
1,509
Gender
Male
HSC
2013
(1/2)[xsqrt[a^2+x^2]+a^2*log[e][x+sqrt[x^2+a^2]]]+C
by integration by parts or trigonometric substitution, that question is easy lol
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top