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[cosmo kramer]

General intelligence is an important human quantitative trait that accounts for much of the variation in diverse cognitive abilities. Individual differences in intelligence are strongly associated with many important life outcomes, including educational and occupational attainments, income, health and lifespan. Data from twin and family studies are consistent with a high heritability of intelligence, but this inference has been controversial. We conducted a genome-wide analysis of 3511 unrelated adults with data on 549 692 single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) and detailed phenotypes on cognitive traits. We estimate that 40% of the variation in crystallized-type intelligence and 51% of the variation in fluid-type intelligence between individuals is accounted for by linkage disequilibrium between genotyped common SNP markers and unknown causal variants. These estimates provide lower bounds for the narrow-sense heritability of the traits. We partitioned genetic variation on individual chromosomes and found that, on average, longer chromosomes explain more variation. Finally, using just SNP data we predicted ~1% of the variance of crystallized and fluid cognitive phenotypes in an independent sample (P=0.009 and 0.028, respectively). Our results unequivocally confirm that a substantial proportion of individual differences in human intelligence is due to genetic variation, and are consistent with many genes of small effects underlying the additive genetic influences on intelligence.

Charles Murray:

A landmark article went online a few days ago in the journal Molecular Psychiatry. The study was prepared by a team of 32 researchers headed by the University of Edinburgh’s Gail Davies and entitled “Genome-wide association studies establish that human intelligence is highly heritable and polygenic.” The study’s methods do not lend themselves to easy explanation unless you’re at home with SNPs (single nucleotide polymorphisms) and inverse variance weighted models used to capture “the variance in the trait that is due to linkage disequilibrium between genotyped SNPs and unknown causal variants.” But the bottom line of the article is reasonably simple. Using nothing but genetic information, the team of researchers was able to establish that the narrow heritability of crystallized intelligence (the kind that can be more easily affected by education) is at least 40 percent. The narrow heritability of fluid intelligence (the kind that involves pure problem-solving ability, independently of acquired knowledge) is at least 51 percent. Note the at least. The study’s authors explicitly state that these estimates are lower bounds.
Shelves of books and articles denying or minimizing the heritability of IQ have suddenly become obsolete. Those who continue to claim that IQ tests don’t measure anything real inside the brain also have their work cut out for them.


what do ANU's paki feminist text books have to say about this?

 

[zombie omie jay]

cool

doesnt change anything really though, in a democratic society at least

 

[Lolsmith]

Yeah that doesn't even mean anything

 

[zombie omie jay]

the variance inside genetic groups is greater than the variance between groups or something

 

[cosmo kramer]

the variance inside genetic groups is greater than the variance between groups or something

lewontins fallacy

 

[cosmo kramer]

Yeah that doesn't even mean anything

why not

are you unaware that there are like millions of people who believe that intelligence doesnt have a genetic component at all and laugh and sneer at the notion and demand "proper evidence" of it

ok you're right they'll just ignore this too

 

[zombie omie jay]

oh yeah i forgot what you were addressing lol
yeah well i guess this settles it


i dont think it matters either way

 

[Garygaz]

what happens when highly intelligent billionaire business mogul mates with dumb as a door nail pornstar/golddigger?

WHAT HAPPENS?

 

[Lolsmith]

Of course intelligence has some level of genetic predisposition to it, that is legit common sense. But I'm of the belief that intelligence can be improved across generations, those who are of feeble mind, doesn't mean that their descendants will have the same weakness.

 

[Lolsmith]

what happens when highly intelligent billionaire business mogul mates with dumb as a door nail pornstar/golddigger?

WHAT HAPPENS?

They're not that dumb if they can sink their hooks into a billionaire.

 

[Garygaz]

didn't realize using your sexuality to become a leech was intelligent

 

[cosmo kramer]

Of course intelligence has some level of genetic predisposition to it, that is legit common sense. But I'm of the belief that intelligence can be improved across generations, those who are of feeble mind, doesn't mean that their descendants will have the same weakness.

i thought it was called eugenics or a severe shift in environmental influences or natural selection pressures

They're not that dumb if they can sink their hooks into a billionaire.

i dont think it matters either way

i do
or at least it should matter but you're right (it won't (because nobody is listening (who matters
(kill all the people who matter and replace them with us))))

this article also really matters with regards to race and iq even if it is not a study of race and iq b/c it severely undermines flynn and william t. dickens model of heritability and establishes the validity of decades of twin/adoption/relatedness kinship studies

the noose continues to tighten

 

[zombie omie jay]

it is pretty smart to use what assets you are born with to better provide for yourself and your offspring

 

[zombie omie jay]

oh i meant it doesnt matter because someone else being dumb doesnt really affect me it just give me an advantage in life and in a democratic society it doesnt matter if one portion of the population is less intelligent than the other etc

 

[cosmo kramer]

guys stop confusing your subjective definitions of intelligence and iq its pointless

 

[cosmo kramer]

i think it matters

think about all the money we waste on education for idiots who will never really be useful for anything other than manual labour

think about all the calls to become A MOER EDUMUCATED SOCIETY NOT JUST A QUARRY FOR CHINA WE NEED MORE COLLEGE STUDENTS MORE MONEY MORE TAXES

think about all the shit about CLOSING THE GAP

think about all the shit about how low socioeconomic status causes all of this and all of the consequences of thinking this is the case

and then imagine that this stuff is going to continue to be ignored even when its becoming inrveasingly obvious all of that is pipe dreaming or just shit predicated on shit

LIFE IS A HIERARCHY

 

[zombie omie jay]

no one (except the commies) are saying life isnt a hierarchy

we dont really waste money educating idiots, they have to pass the courses etc meet entry standards
i think you mean the money we waste educating people in irrelevant courses

an educated society is better than an uneducated one. Switzerland etc . increases in skills = increases in standards of living this is a fact

closing the gap is only reiterated by the left who just want wealth distribution. liberals wont advocate this. help people help themselves etc

 

[cosmo kramer]

no one (except the commies) are saying life isnt a hierarchy

yeah but how many people say it SHOULDNT be

a lot

we dont really waste money educating idiots

yeah we do

gordon brown wants like 50% or more of people to go to university now

thats absurd

an educated society is better than an uneducated one

who is disagreeing with this

increases in skills = increases in standards of living this is a fact

depends on the skills and who you train

closing the gap is only reiterated by the left who just want wealth distribution. liberals wont advocate this. help people help themselves etc

problem is that conservatives have useless arguments against the left and cant fight back against them because they have no mental ammunition

we need biology into this discussion to actually fight the left once and for all michael levin made this argument and it is irontight

it is called the sowell loop

the left: faggots are failing and are losers lets give them money and help them
the right: no if we do that then they wont be able to help themselves let them rise on their own two feet
~theoretical world in which the right actually get what they want~

fags continue to fail because of genetic INFERIORITY

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the left: faggots are failing and are losers lets give them money and help them

x infinity

 

[Garygaz]

guys stop confusing your subjective definitions of intelligence and iq its pointless

i believe the level of intelligence required to realize your massive tits and cellulite face will attract wrinkled old billionaires is minimal

 

[cosmo kramer]

you mean botox face right not cellulite nobody tlikes a cellulite face