Equal first (1 Viewer)

[ThandraCityRail]

Hey.

If you're equal first in a subject, how are the overall marks decided?

 

[LightXT]

Overall?

 

[taeyang]

Sometimes they check preliminary ranks/scores but most of the time they plug your assessment marks for each subject into an ATAR calculator and whoever has the biggest ATAR wins.

 

[Shadowdude]

Hey.

If you're equal first in a subject, how are the overall marks decided?

Overall marks as in what? Be more specific.

 

[MrBrightside]

Sometimes they check preliminary ranks/scores but most of the time they plug your assessment marks for each subject into an ATAR calculator and whoever has the biggest ATAR wins.

?? Don't they already incorporate the assessment marks as 50% ?

 

[ThandraCityRail]

sorry, i mean as in if you're ranked first in a subject do you recieve your own mark in the external exam? someone told me that no two people can be first and it's decided by some other means

 

[Shadowdude]

sorry, i mean as in if you're ranked first in a subject do you recieve your own mark in the external exam? someone told me that no two people can be first and it's decided by some other means

They take the tied people's external marks and average the two to get the external moderated mark they assign.

 

[ThandraCityRail]

They take the tied people's external marks and average the two to get the external moderated mark they assign.

really? that kinda sucks considering the guy who's equal first won't do so great externally...

teacher told me that it's the same - as if we were both individually first and tha we both get OUR OWN external mark

 

[Shadowdude]

really? that kinda sucks considering the guy who's equal first won't do so great externally...

teacher told me that it's the same - as if we were both individually first and tha we both get OUR OWN external mark

Yes, as your external mark. But for your moderated assessment mark - you get the average.

 

[theone111]

that is such a FUCKING shit process
same shits happened to me... THREE TIMES

tied 1st in two subjects
and tied 3rd (with 2 others!) in another..

LIKE FOR FUCKS SAKEEEE
the school should be punished for not taking proper means of differentiating students

now im gonna get fucked over
gonna go die

brb

 

[ThandraCityRail]

Yes, as your external mark. But for your moderated assessment mark - you get the average.

so 25% of my final mark for that subject relies on an idiot

can't believe i let him ceep through

 

[ThandraCityRail]

also, how sure are you of this shadow? is there a site that explains this somewhere?

just want to be absolutely sure

 

[Shadowdude]

Is there a site that explains it? Yes, the Board of Studies website.

 

[ThandraCityRail]

Is there a site that explains it? Yes, the Board of Studies website.

it explains how people who are equal first get their internal assessment averaged?

 

[Shadowdude]

Somewhere there, yes.

 

[ThandraCityRail]

Somewhere there, yes.

have any idea where? can't seem to find it

sorry for the constant q's

 

[ThandraCityRail]

yeah nevermind, just found it

so does this mean, for example, if i get a mark of 96 and he gets 90, my mark would be (93+96)/2 = 95?

 

[Shadowdude]

yeah nevermind, just found it

so does this mean, for example, if i get a mark of 96 and he gets 90, my mark would be (93+96)/2 = 95?

Well, 93. (90+96)/2.

 

[cem]

also, how sure are you of this shadow? is there a site that explains this somewhere?

just want to be absolutely sure

http://www.boardofstudies.nsw.edu.au/hsc-results/moderation.html


Note that if a school submits assessment marks with two (or more) students tied on the top assessment mark, then the top moderated assessment mark is equal to the mean of the top two (or more) examination marks. This is also the case if students are tied on the bottom assessment mark. Please also note that the standard deviation is never used to moderate school assessment marks.

 

[ThandraCityRail]

Well, 93. (90+96)/2.

internally, but overall 95? as my external mark is 96+96/2 = 96 then internal 96/90 = 93 then overall 93+96/2 = 95?