Juliar betrays australia, destroys our economic future (2 Viewers)

[na110793]

I'd be more concerned about all the socialist fucks taking away our properties tbh

Oh God, they might....give our properties to the housos?! And tell us to buy a new house?!? FUCK I'VE LOST HOPE IN HUMANITY.

 

[boris]

Mate, this situation has mitigating factors that I failed to mention. TOTAL ANARCHY AND CHAOS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME UNPRECEDENTED SHIT BR8. LIKE HOW THE ABORIGINES LEARNED THAT PETROL IS FOR CARS, NOT SNIFFIN'.

mate do you even know any aboriginals

also 1% of the population rising up against the rest ok i think we have far more to fear from the vietnamese

 

[muhahahahahaha]

will I have 2 convert 2 islam though?

meh, no i dont really think its right to make people convert lol...youre fine just the way you are

 

[na110793]

mate do you even know any aboriginals

also 1% of the population rising up against the rest ok i think we have far more to fear from the vietnamese

Meant as a joke, Buzz Killington. And in fact I live in the inner west. Many aboriginals living here.

 

[abbeyroad]

Oh God, they might....give our properties to the housos?! And tell us to buy a new house?!? FUCK I'VE LOST HOPE IN HUMANITY.

hahahahah you clearly have no idea what a socialist/communist revolution is supposed to be

 

[Lentern]

What on earth are you harping on about. This is currently a tax. The fact that it will eventually merge into something else has nothing to do with my point.

oh thankyou lentern for a single poll from 2009 asking if people are in favour of a CARBON REDUCTION SCHEME (notice reduction scheme being the keyword, as opposed to tax)

um

When governments, public servants, economists, academics and law experts spoke about a "carbon tax" as a possible mechanism for the reduction of carbon they referred to a consumption tax on specific goods. In general discourse, placing a regulatory price on the production of carbon like this one was seriously considered a "carbon tax" any more than Tony Abbott's descriptions of Rudd's "CPRS" as a "Great Big New Tax" were treated seriously by any but the party faithful. A consumption tax on specific goods was the Greens Policy prior to 2010 for anyone who cared to read it.

The discussion of a regulatory price on the production of carbon as a "carbon tax" only entered the political lexicon after the 2010 election, you can see in this article http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...on-price-promise/story-fn59niix-1225907522983 that Gillard never ruled out placing a price on carbon production. It was a carbon tax in the sense that it was previously used which she ruled out.

It is fine to debate the merits of different forms of climate action, less so the need for climate action but still that's within the bounds of reason but can we finally stop this pathetic, delusory line of argument that she unequivocally and specifically ruled out the legislation which she has just enacted. It is just, plain wrong.

 

[na110793]

hahahahah you clearly have no idea what a socialist/communist revolution is supposed to be

Actually, up until last year I was a commie. And now I look back and think, " What the fuck was wrong with me?".

 

[na110793]

Just a quick question everyone: has cheese_cheese aka libfag ever sworn at anyone? Because he negative repp'd me and called me a cunt, just asking.

 

[scuba_steve2121]

I don't care how any tries to sell this

this is a tax increase on the general public

governments should be spending less and cutting taxes

we are going in the wrong direction

 

[boris]

Meant as a joke, Buzz Killington. And in fact I live in the inner west. Many aboriginals living here.

nope

also a commie come on you are the worst

 

[na110793]

nope

also a commie come on you are the worst

And that's why you love me br8.

 

[muhahahahahaha]

Just a quick question everyone: has cheese_cheese aka libfag ever sworn at anyone? Because he negative repp'd me and called me a cunt, just asking.

neg repped me after i negged him, but he said that being a girl only prevented it for so long. lmao.

 

[muhahahahahaha]

I don't care how any tries to sell this

this is a tax increase on the general public

governments should be spending less and cutting taxes

we are going in the wrong direction

this is true..one good thing about the old Howard days= zero debt...
sure we cut out funding from health and education sectors, but eh, at least we didnt have a massive black loan staring at us in the mirror.

 

[Lentern]

I don't care how any tries to sell this

this is a tax increase on the general public

governments should be spending less and cutting taxes

we are going in the wrong direction

Which is a legitimate position to hold but this crap about her reneging on a promise is just lazy and misleading.

 

[boris]

this is true..one good thing about the old Howard days= zero debt...
sure we cut out funding from health and education sectors, but eh, at least we didnt have a massive black loan staring at us in the mirror.

the howard glory days

 

[na110793]

neg repped me after i negged him, but he said that being a girl only prevented it for so long. lmao.

Haha lol. I dunno about you guys, but I actually thought he was a troll to begin with. But after so long, he can't be still trollin'. It's just not good for long term mental health. So I've come to the conclusion that he's serious. Which scares the fuck out of me.

 

[muhahahahahaha]

Which is a legitimate position to hold but this crap about her reneging on a promise is just lazy and misleading.

....but she lied to the people..she openly lied! changed her view about the carbon tax about 2 weeks after she was elected to the role of pm because she had a 'change of heart'...
same thing happened with Howard...stating that under his government there would never be a GST...well he lied too lol.
our whole government is based on feeding the australian people false promises.

 

[Lentern]

the howard glory days

National Debt, which Howard and Costello campaigned on with their debt truck in 1995/1996, "$10,000 for every man, woman and child" "The Beazley blackhole" etc, National debt tripled under the Howard government.

 

[muhahahahahaha]

Haha lol. I dunno about you guys, but I actually thought he was a troll to begin with. But after so long, he can't be still trollin'. It's just not good for long term mental health. So I've come to the conclusion that he's serious. Which scares the fuck out of me.

hahahaha i thought he was trollin at first too but yeah, he is 5reals.

 

[Lentern]

....but she lied to the people..she openly lied! changed her view about the carbon tax about 2 weeks after she was elected to the role of pm because she had a 'change of heart'...
same thing happened with Howard...stating that under his government there would never be a GST...well he lied too lol.
our whole government is based on feeding the australian people false promises.

When governments, public servants, economists, academics and law experts spoke about a "carbon tax" as a possible mechanism for the reduction of carbon they referred to a consumption tax on specific goods. In general discourse, placing a regulatory price on the production of carbon like this one was seriously considered a "carbon tax" any more than Tony Abbott's descriptions of Rudd's "CPRS" as a "Great Big New Tax" were treated seriously by any but the party faithful. A consumption tax on specific goods was the Greens Policy prior to 2010 for anyone who cared to read it.

The discussion of a regulatory price on the production of carbon as a "carbon tax" only entered the political lexicon after the 2010 election, you can see in this article http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1225907522983 that Gillard never ruled out placing a price on carbon production. It was a carbon tax in the sense that it was previously used which she ruled out.

It is fine to debate the merits of different forms of climate action, less so the need for climate action but still that's within the bounds of reason but can we finally stop this pathetic, delusory line of argument that she unequivocally and specifically ruled out the legislation which she has just enacted. It is just, plain wrong.

.