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[MichelleV]

Everybody should just stop bashing other universities.

Yes, UWS has lower ATAR requirements than other unis, and yes, that does draw in people who didn’t do as well as those at unis like UNSW or Usyd. But in a few years when everybody has completed the same degrees, to the same standards as any other student at any other university, it’s all going to come down to the job interview...
If 5 graduates attended interviews for the same job, it wouldn’t be about where they attended uni. It would be about their marks, their personality and ability to respond to the questions, and in some cases, any experience they may have.
Honestly, if it matters so much to people that they attend a Uni that has more prestige and more like minded students, than by all means, work towards attending the uni of your dreams. But please don’t criticise UWS purely on the basis that it is a less ‘prestigious’ university. Not everybody goes to UWS because their some dropkick that doesn’t care where they go in life...

If I could have, I would have chosen to go to Usyd or Macquarie. UWS was the only university I could go to because of my work, and I do not feel in the slightest that I am in any way jeopardising my future by doing it.

 

[acemusic415]

Everybody should just stop bashing other universities.

Yes, UWS has lower ATAR requirements than other unis, and yes, that does draw in people who didn’t do as well as those at unis like UNSW or Usyd. But in a few years when everybody has completed the same degrees, to the same standards as any other student at any other university, it’s all going to come down to the job interview...
If 5 graduates attended interviews for the same job, it wouldn’t be about where they attended uni. It would be about their marks, their personality and ability to respond to the questions, and in some cases, any experience they may have.
Honestly, if it matters so much to people that they attend a Uni that has more prestige and more like minded students, than by all means, work towards attending the uni of your dreams. But please don’t criticise UWS purely on the basis that it is a less ‘prestigious’ university. Not everybody goes to UWS because their some dropkick that doesn’t care where they go in life...

If I could have, I would have chosen to go to Usyd or Macquarie. UWS was the only university I could go to because of my work, and I do not feel in the slightest that I am in any way jeopardising my future by doing it.

+ 1

In every one else's defence, it's apparent that UWS has yet to be on par with UNSW and USYD. Having said that, I don't think the university itself is extraordinary bad, rather its reputation (that can't be solved really, time is crucial for its development). For me, if I didn't choose law - a degree and field that is highly dependent on prestige, I probably would have went to UWS, due to its convenient location. Admittedly, UWS deterred me from considering them as a preference due to their inferior reputation. However, I was dedicated to get into law, so regardless, I placed it as a preference. But I also know some people who are insanely accustomed to the notion that if you attend UWS, you as a person and your level of worth is significantly diminished. One day, everybody will graduate with the same degree and the worth of your degree will be up to you, dependent on what you do make out of it. So in the end, there isn't a massive and significant difference.

On a side note, the university is frowned upon because many that bludge around during the HSC are simply given a second chance to go either to UWS or UWS College, supplemented with numerous bonus points. Hence, perceptions usually surround the 'drop kicks' of society who didn't place equal effort to those who confidently entered into other universities. On the other hand, there are those who genuinely tried and didn't achieve what they desired and are offered an appropriate alternative. But even then, those people I know have either transferred into a more 'prestigious' course within UWS or externally transferred to MACQU, UTS and of course, USYD/UNSW etc.

 

[Lolsmith]

Everybody should just stop bashing other universities.

Yes, UWS has lower ATAR requirements than other unis, and yes, that does draw in people who didn’t do as well as those at unis like UNSW or Usyd. But in a few years when everybody has completed the same degrees, to the same standards as any other student at any other university, it’s all going to come down to the job interview...
If 5 graduates attended interviews for the same job, it wouldn’t be about where they attended uni. It would be about their marks, their personality and ability to respond to the questions, and in some cases, any experience they may have.
Honestly, if it matters so much to people that they attend a Uni that has more prestige and more like minded students, than by all means, work towards attending the uni of your dreams. But please don’t criticise UWS purely on the basis that it is a less ‘prestigious’ university. Not everybody goes to UWS because their some dropkick that doesn’t care where they go in life...

If I could have, I would have chosen to go to Usyd or Macquarie. UWS was the only university I could go to because of my work, and I do not feel in the slightest that I am in any way jeopardising my future by doing it.

incorrect

networking is the most important thing out of anything and Sydney and New South are probably the best places to network in

"probably", this isn't measurable

 

[muhahahahahaha]

Lolsmith, talking to you is like talking to a brick wall - pointless.

 

[Lolsmith]

and why is that

 

[muhahahahahaha]

Well, because every time one of us UWSers makes a valid point, you try to state that that point is invalid or incorrect. It's gotten to a point where I think you just post crap to piss me off. You don't actually have any supporting material stating that Usyd or UNSW are better for networking do you? If you do, then I'd be happy to accept your argument. If you're just basing it on pure observation, then I would like to ask you politely to stop making pathetic counter arguments against the rest of us that actually do appreciate UWS.

 

[UnrealAnchovies]

I post a thread telling people to stop posting shit about UWS or about us because we go to UWS and here you are posting rubbish. What part of "stop posting shit" dont you understand?

oh logic, you terrible terrible thing you!

 

[kaz1]

*He. So wait a second, you seem to present yourself as superior and seem to view the UWS kids as inferior; when I have a picture of me with my shirt off and my face clearly in range, my profile calls me male and there is absolutely nothing on my post/profile that says I am female. Oh wait, but you're heaps smart because you're at another uni right?. You need to undergo a bachelor of gender verification.

hahahahahaha

 

[uws-booksales]

UWS gives pretty much anyone a chance to get in. However make it or drop it is entirely up to you. Study hard at UWS, get good marks, you will be rewarded in some ways, may be a chance to transfer to a "better" uni if you're bothered too much about what people say. Or if you can ignore all that crap, look a little further into the future, at some points your degree will be no more than a piece of paper, no matter where it's from: UWS, UNSW, SYD, MACQ... Don't waste your time to argue this, save it for your study. You can't stop people talking, let them talk, apparently they have a lot of time to waste.

 

[Phoenix Fury]

True but wouldnt some (shitdumbidiotface) employers look more kindly upon degrees from unis that are more ~prestigious~, just because they are old and silly?

 

[Cl324]

hahahahahaha

http://community.boredofstudies.org/converse.php?u=1611047382&u2=1611046370

LOLOL

 

[marksgm]

Again, if you have some shit to say, go somewhere else.

Again, if you have some shit to say, go somewhere else.

 

[muhahahahahaha]

True but wouldnt some (shitdumbidiotface) employers look more kindly upon degrees from unis that are more ~prestigious~, just because they are old and silly?

Yep, unfortunately.

 

[muhahahahahaha]

Again, if you have some shit to say, go somewhere else.

This is a uws sub-forum so for all the others that dont go to uws who are just happy to talk crap about our uni or talk crap about us because we go to that uni should really go somewhere else. Evidently, that includes you.

 

[muhahahahahaha]

For USYD:

- B Arts (Media and Communication): 98.50
- B Arts (Languages): 98.55
- B Arts (Advanced): 98.55
- B Aeronautical Space Engineering: 99.45
- B Mechanical Space Engineering: 99.45
- B Mechatronic Space Engineering: 99.45
- B Civil Geotechnical Engineering: 99.15
- B Bioelectronic Engineering: 98.40

I believe UNSW has similar cut-offs.

You're absolutely right, the courses that you have stated DO require that atar. I stated in an ealrier post that you dont need to be extremely bright to get into an arts course or a science course. Well, I just visited the usyd website and for a plain arts degree the 2012 cut off is 80.05
Bachelor of arts and bachelor of social work is 83.
Bachelor of engineering and bachelor of arts is 91.05.
Bachelor of science and bachelor of arts is 80.50.

Yes, some arts courses do need a higher atar as you have posted, but i think your post was too focused upon those combinations of arts and another degree that required a higher atar, not a broader view which should have included those that do not require a great atar.


And yeah, I guess if I did get a 96 and UWS required an 85 and usyd or unsw required a 95, I would choose usyd or unsw. And yes again, I do fit into your category 1 in that I didnt receive a high enough atar to do the course that i wanted. I mean I needed to get a 99.65 to get into usyd. That seemed pretty far fetched. Im happy that I got into law, and I'm honestly happy with uws. Yeah some of the students dont give a shit about uni and they do just enough to scrape through the unit, but there are also a lot of students who do aim for the distinctions and high distinctions. Im one of those students. Just because my atar wasnt fantastic, doesnt suggest that im not doing well at uni.

 

[MysteryGenius]

Again, if you have some shit to say, go somewhere else.

What even?

 

[MysteryGenius]

I'm sorry (i'm not sorry) but
No new points have been made in this thread or any similar threads, why are people still talking about this?

If you want to network you will take the initiative to do so, regardless of which uni you attend. I mean, it seems like a pretty piss poor excuse to blame your/others lack of motivation on UWS, you know? Now I'm not refuting the possibility that USyd/UNSW/etc may have more readily accessible resources in regards to networking, or better/relevant connections to employers who you may want to associate with, as I have not read nor heard much about it at all. Although from experience I can certainly say that as a UWS student, you are by no means hindered by the institution itself, but only by how far you're willing to push yourself.

I have yet to meet someone who enjoys being told that what and where they're studying is nothing short of a pointless waste of time and also that what they take pride in, is shit. I admittedly am not one of those people. Not as extreme as some, but still... I take pride in what I do and don't get me wrong, that doesn't mean I believe it's perfect, but I hope you can imagine how irritating it gets when you have people constantly repeating the same old arguments on and fucking on...

I'm not bothered when the claims made are justified, logical, and backed up with evidence when possible. It's just tiresome when people troll for the sake of it... "lol UWS". Stupid high school kids simply echoing what they've heard from folk a year below them or some shit. ugh. I've been accused of glorifying the uni a couple of times, but that's just not the case. I respect it as an educational institution and do not see it as a plausible excuse for slackers to use to justify their own incompetency or lack of initiative.

I've had several opportunities at UWS that I probably wouldn't have had if I went to USyd instead. Granted, USyd would also offer its students with resources and opportunities which may not be available to UWS or its students.
I am grateful for this and also for the wonderful professors who have supported me in my attempts to gain as much experience in the field as possible.
Smaller classes allows for more face-to-face time between professors and students. Pretty much everybody in my course knows of each other (at least!) so classes are a lot more enjoyable and interactive than what I assume it would be if we had classes as large as USyd.

Of course I base these opinions on my own experiences but all-in-all it's no where near as bad as some people make it out to be =/

• The science facilities have either already been upgraded or are in the process

• My library is well overdue for a renovation

• The brutalist architecture and recent instalment of palm trees at my campus was pretty unnecessary and imo the money could have been better spent

• They really need to work harder to prevent the site from crashing a lot of the time. So far, so good.

• I quite like the timetabling process- especially the freedom to create it to suit you and the race to get your desired tutorials

• I've only ever had issues with one lecturer who seems to favour the mature age students and often neglects the rest of the group during practicals
  oh, and one of my chemistry demonstrators who just so happens to have a pole shoved so far up her arse I'm surprised it hasn't popped out of her mouth yet. During one of my first chem practicals I reminded her of the roll of tissue paper that needd to be replaced after I had finished the previous one cleaning up a spill. She sneered and said I was inconsiderate for making her waste her time on something so silly. Bitch doesn't know shit about inconsiderate behaviour. My friend had just spilt acid all over the bench and my notebook when she fell from her stool... now that's inconsiderate.

• I've met amazing people, but yes there are a fair few weirdos at uni... it's in western sydney, wot do you expect? It's interesting though.

• I've never really been interested in the social side of uni, so I can't really say much about the clubs, but bar night is pretty neat lol so many great stories.

I can't think of anything else to say at the moment.

tl;dr
It's all about initiative
UWS is not as shit as people say imo because of reasons
who really cares anymore?
Just do whatever the fuck you want.
If you want to succeed, then do shit that'll get you there and don't bother wasting your time with shit like this.

 

[mirakon]

To be fair a lot of the uws defenders need to calm down and realise the VAST majority of people dissing the uni are just trolling to provoke you and don't really have an opinion on the uni being good/bad. The only people who can really give feedback on a university are those who attend it. For example, I can't possibly say whether unsw is good/bad because I dont't go to it.

 

[muhahahahahaha]

The past two posts have been spot on (I would rep but ive given out too much in the last 24 hours )

 

[effylove]

the irony is incredibly entertaining

it sure is Billy. it sure is.