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[My Name is Khan]

Hey guys

My teacher told me that if you get higher mark than your trials in the HSC (for MX 1 and MX 2), the marks will be scale down, is it true ?
If yes, is it for all subjects or just MX 1 and MX 2 ?

And how does that work? If I get 95 in trials and say get 97 in HSC, I will scaled down? :/

Thanks in advance
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[Absolutezero]

Short Answer: No

Long Answer: A percentage of your trial will go towards your ATAR calculation. So if you're final exam mark is 97, but you go 95 in the trials, then your final mark would be slightly under 97. This is because the ATAR is a combination of your internal and external marks. But this doesn't mean that your being scaled down because you got higher in the external than the trial, it's lower because that's what the combination of assessment, trial and HSC marks yield.

 

[My Name is Khan]

But what if the mark gap is large between trials and externals?

Short Answer: No

Long Answer: A percentage of your trial will go towards your ATAR calculation. So if you're final exam mark is 97, but you go 95 in the trials, then your final mark would be slightly under 97. This is because the ATAR is a combination of your internal and external marks. But this doesn't mean that your being scaled down because you got higher in the external than the trial, it's lower because that's what the combination of assessment, trial and HSC marks yield.

 

[Carrotsticks]

It's very discouraging seeing 'fully qualified' teachers scaring students with trivial things like this.

 

[Absolutezero]

It depends on rankings as well. If there's a huge gap, your final mark will be lower. That's because it's a combined mark, not because the trial scales the externals down.

 

[My Name is Khan]

that is so gay :/

It depends on rankings as well. If there's a huge gap, your final mark will be lower. That's because it's a combined mark, not because the trial scales the externals down.

 

[Absolutezero]

Basically, don't worry about it. Just do your best in whatever you've got left.

 

[twinklegal19]

Basically, don't worry about it. Just do your best in whatever you've got left.

+1

It's best not to worry about aligning or scaling too much since there's really nothing you can do to change the actual process, just focus on the things that you can control, i.e. maximising your raw marks and ranks in your future exams and let moderating/aligning/scaling take care of itself.

 

[enoilgam]

It's very discouraging seeing 'fully qualified' teachers scaring students with trivial things like this.

There are so many myths, rumours and innuendo about HSC - most of which are spread by teachers. When it comes to the HSC, very few teachers know how it works (cem is a rare exception to this). OP, it appears your teacher has drawn a wrongful conclusion from a process which they have little understanding.

 

[qwerty44]

Tbh I have never heard a consistent theory of the hsc from teachers. Every one of them has something to add/take away.

 

[twinklegal19]

Tbh I have never heard a consistent theory of the hsc from teachers. Every one of them has something to add/take away.

True, best to only trust reliable sources from the Board of Studies and UAC, which are pretty detailed anyway.

 

[enoilgam]

Tbh I have never heard a consistent theory of the hsc from teachers. Every one of them has something to add/take away.

Most teachers are ill-informed because it isnt really in their interest to know how the process works - a maths teacher needs to be familiar with the maths syllabus, not how aligning/scaling/moderation works. Also, the process of calculating HSC marks/ATAR's is complex, which leads many teachers to draw the wrong conclusions from the process based on their limited knowledge.

 

[qwerty44]

True, best to only trust reliable sources from the Board of Studies and UAC, which are pretty detailed anyway.

Even this BoS is OK as you get many opinions and can derive most of the truth out of information from others. People here take criticism and their understanding of the HSC changes, but try telling your teacher their understanding is dead wrong...

 

[Uniqueness]

Doesn't it kinda averages out in the end anyway?

 

[4025808]

There are so many myths, rumours and innuendo about HSC - most of which are spread by teachers. When it comes to the HSC, very few teachers know how it works (cem is a rare exception to this). OP, it appears your teacher has drawn a wrongful conclusion from a process which they have little understanding.

Most teachers are ill-informed because it isnt really in their interest to know how the process works - a maths teacher needs to be familiar with the maths syllabus, not how aligning/scaling/moderation works. Also, the process of calculating HSC marks/ATAR's is complex, which leads many teachers to draw the wrong conclusions from the process based on their limited knowledge.

Some may know the syllabus but decide to tell people different things to troll them into making them work harder. That could be a possibility.

 

[D94]

Short answer: Not enough information.

Long answer: Still not enough information.

You can't just correlate Trials mark to the HSC mark. Way too many factors involved. The trials is part of your raw internal mark, but this mark will be moderated according to how well your cohort performs in the HSC. Then this moderated mark will be averaged with your HSC exam mark to result in your HSC mark.