Moderated Mark Estimate? (1 Viewer)

[DanPetrov]

Hi everyone,
I realize this is kindof an obscure question and theres no definite answer but I was wondering how moderated marks might work just cause im trying to understand this a bit better...
so I know it depends on your cohort but for example's sake lets just say I have a decent cohort (not really bad but not james ruse either) and we all do ext 1 maths. My rank is 10/50 and I get a raw mark of about 75%, how much will this moderate to? Not final scaled mark (cause that brings the mark down) but like how much will it be brought up because its considered a hard subject?
Thanks

 

[D94]

Forget how hard the subject is, that's irrelevant in what you're asking.

You sit assessments at school, and you get this final school mark. This is a raw mark, just based on your percentages and weightings which your school decides on. So your final rank is 10/50 and your school mark is 75%. Everyone has a mark and a rank.

Now, you sit the HSC exams. Someone or a few, not necessarily first place, gets the highest mark. Likewise with the lowest mark. So, when the school marks are moderated, ALL moderated marks fall within the highest and lowest HSC exam marks (excluding outliers). It's your performance in the HSC exams which decides your moderated school marks.

So, BOS will compare the mean of the school marks and the mean of the exam marks, and raise or lower the school marks so that the mean is the same. They will also pin the highest/lowest marks to the first and last ranked students, then all marks are moderated according to how much each student deviates from another. Coming 2nd by 3 marks will yield a better mark than coming 2nd by 15 marks. So really, your moderated marks are proportional to the raw school marks.

You ask what 75% will be moderated to? Well, we can't say. It could be lowered to 60 or raised to 95. It could stay the same or deviate a lot. It will depend on your HSC exam performance. Note that if all your cohort's marks lie within 90 and 100, then you will all receive Band 6's, because that 90 and 100 are the highest/lowest EXAM marks, so you can't get lower than 90. This is obviously an optimistic/unlikely situation, but same point.

Essentially, whilst the HSC is sort of a contest at school (i.e. who can gain the most raw marks), during the HSC, you will all need to work together to ensure the highest possible marks. The ideal HSC exam marks are close together and high up towards 100.

 

[aceer]

Forget how hard the subject is, that's irrelevant in what you're asking.

You sit assessments at school, and you get this final school mark. This is a raw mark, just based on your percentages and weightings which your school decides on. So your final rank is 10/50 and your school mark is 75%. Everyone has a mark and a rank.

Now, you sit the HSC exams. Someone or a few, not necessarily first place, gets the highest mark. Likewise with the lowest mark. So, when the school marks are moderated, ALL moderated marks fall within the highest and lowest HSC exam marks (excluding outliers). It's your performance in the HSC exams which decides your moderated school marks.

So, BOS will compare the mean of the school marks and the mean of the exam marks, and raise or lower the school marks so that the mean is the same. They will also pin the highest/lowest marks to the first and last ranked students, then all marks are moderated according to how much each student deviates from another. Coming 2nd by 3 marks will yield a better mark than coming 2nd by 15 marks. So really, your moderated marks are proportional to the raw school marks.

You ask what 75% will be moderated to? Well, we can't say. It could be lowered to 60 or raised to 95. It could stay the same or deviate a lot. It will depend on your HSC exam performance. Note that if all your cohort's marks lie within 90 and 100, then you will all receive Band 6's, because that 90 and 100 are the highest/lowest EXAM marks, so you can't get lower than 90. This is obviously an optimistic/unlikely situation, but same point.

Essentially, whilst the HSC is sort of a contest at school (i.e. who can gain the most raw marks), during the HSC, you will all need to work together to ensure the highest possible marks. The ideal HSC exam marks are close together and high up towards 100.

+1

 

[enoilgam]

Forget how hard the subject is, that's irrelevant in what you're asking.

You sit assessments at school, and you get this final school mark. This is a raw mark, just based on your percentages and weightings which your school decides on. So your final rank is 10/50 and your school mark is 75%. Everyone has a mark and a rank.

Now, you sit the HSC exams. Someone or a few, not necessarily first place, gets the highest mark. Likewise with the lowest mark. So, when the school marks are moderated, ALL moderated marks fall within the highest and lowest HSC exam marks (excluding outliers). It's your performance in the HSC exams which decides your moderated school marks.

So, BOS will compare the mean of the school marks and the mean of the exam marks, and raise or lower the school marks so that the mean is the same. They will also pin the highest/lowest marks to the first and last ranked students, then all marks are moderated according to how much each student deviates from another. Coming 2nd by 3 marks will yield a better mark than coming 2nd by 15 marks. So really, your moderated marks are proportional to the raw school marks.

You ask what 75% will be moderated to? Well, we can't say. It could be lowered to 60 or raised to 95. It could stay the same or deviate a lot. It will depend on your HSC exam performance. Note that if all your cohort's marks lie within 90 and 100, then you will all receive Band 6's, because that 90 and 100 are the highest/lowest EXAM marks, so you can't get lower than 90. This is obviously an optimistic/unlikely situation, but same point.

Essentially, whilst the HSC is sort of a contest at school (i.e. who can gain the most raw marks), during the HSC, you will all need to work together to ensure the highest possible marks. The ideal HSC exam marks are close together and high up towards 100.

Great post D94, I will have to keep this for when this question inevitably comes up again. As D94 has pointed out, we cannot determine how raw marks will be moderated at this point because they are dependant on a variety of factors which we do not know - namely that moderation is based on the external performance of a cohort.

 

[DanPetrov]

okay wow, that clears a lot of things up :O
thanks!