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2013 Federal Election: 2PP Voting Intention

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A low IQ erson cannot "increase" their IQ by more than a few points, while a high IQ person has no boundary to how low they can potentially fall if they injure themselves in some way (heavy metal poisoning etc).

And what I was implying is that the right wing of politix is the best wing, the one on which humanity can thrive. The left wing is for fucktards who dont understand the world or have little knowledge about the ramifications of economical actions.
You literally justify none of what you just said "right wing is best" is hardly a good argument or point. I also think you are ridiculously oversimplifying the matter, most probably because you are incapable of discussing it in greater detail.
 

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You literally justify none of what you just said "right wing is best" is hardly a good argument or point. I also think you are ridiculously oversimplifying the matter, most probably because you are incapable of discussing it in greater detail.
I dont justify because I dont need to! its fairly frickin obvious isnt it?

If I was to give a full out explanation it would take a) More time than I have and b) more time than I could be bothered to write about it.




and that is rude, saying someone is incapable of something without knowing whether they are or arent.
 

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I think you are the fucktard, you don't have any opinions of your own, and don't justify any of your baseless rants
I dont justify because u guys dont argue against it now do you? that surely means you are accepting it, so why should I bother laying out a full argument against someone who's already accepted by notions already?

Bro if u want me to give a full thesis on why right wing is better than left wing and vital to society then I can do so after my exams, when I have more time.
 

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I dont justify because I dont need to! its fairly frickin obvious isnt it?

If I was to give a full out explanation it would take a) More time than I have and b) more time than I could be bothered to write about it.



and that is rude, saying someone is incapable of something without knowing whether they are or arent.
no it isn't

well you haven't justified it at all, nor made any attempt to do so, so it's safe to assume you can't unless you actually proceed to demonstrate you can.
 

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I think you are the fucktard, you don't have any opinions of your own, and don't justify any of your baseless rants
Sorry that was rude what I said. I guess, the left wing is for people who dont have a holistic understanding of things, more a narrow and underdeveloped outlook.

I shall give a full argument for this after my exams. Sit tight! You shall be amazed! lol jks. Its just my personal thesis. Nothing big.
 

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no it isn't

well you haven't justified it at all, nor made any attempt to do so, so it's safe to assume you can't unless you actually proceed to demonstrate you can.
Ahh yes sorry I forget, things tend to get cluttered very often in australian politics which is why the obviously correct path to go is not always seen.

read my previous posts.


After exams I give u full explanation. Then hopefully you will all preach the word of the right wing.
 

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Look you fucking shills, the political climate has shifted around Fraser in his time. He has always been a liberal, not a conservative either socially or economically. That's why he resigned from the party 3 or 4 years ago. I will put money on the fact that you have no idea what the difference between the two is.

Neither of you can conceive of history outside of the current time and shouldn't comment on it because you don't have any idea what you're talking about.
What do you mean he always been a Liberal? The Australian term?
Advocating for the dollar not to be floated is conservative. Advocating for protectionist barriers to remain as they were is conservative. He never been socially or economically conservative ,and that's why he joined the Liberal Party ? Fraser said himself that the Liberal Party was not the party of Menzies anymore. Totally right because modern members are economically liberal and socially conservative. The party has left Fraser and in turn he has woken up and joined the left. Just because he resigned 3-4 years ago doesn't mean he never been a conservative... I know he's not now.

Conservatives are those who believe change should be organic and that long standing institutions that have stood the test of time should remain as they are. All of Fraser positions were conservative because he didn't advocate for any sort of significant change during his prime ministership.
 
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I was once as left wing as townie although are now more middle centre. Both the left and the right fail in various aspects.
 

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Wouldnt you agree that overall, however, right wing leads to less problems than left wing?
In the short term because right usually advocates no change. We need the left to introduce the much needed reforms to protect us over the long term and the right to stabilise when reforms are not needed. So the best position to be is the centre or moderate.
 

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A former Howard battler here, I will be voting for Labor and the Greens. Afterall who wants Work Choices and the absolute horrible policies of climate change denials of Abbott. Abbott will gift Gillard a second term; Gillard 2013.
 

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Priority is jobs ahead of budget surplus.
Wayne Swan has flagged that creating jobs rather than returning the budget to surplus will be the top priority in next month's federal budget. The Treasurer said big reductions in government spending would result in rising unemployment and slowing economic growth. " To cut to the bone as our political opponents advocate would drive our economy into the ground and send unemployment upwards. But Wayne Swan also said that the Gillard government will make some hard decisions to repair the national finances including some moderate cutbacks. It is highly likely Mr Swan will deliver the budget surplus in 2016 aided by a stronger economy.
 

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There is not a chance in Hell Gillard gets elected. Even Rudd couldn't turn aroumd Gillards fuck ups so close to the election.

Swan is just an idiot.
 

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Priority is jobs ahead of budget surplus.
Wayne Swan has flagged that creating jobs rather than returning the budget to surplus will be the top priority in next month's federal budget. The Treasurer said big reductions in government spending would result in rising unemployment and slowing economic growth. " To cut to the bone as our political opponents advocate would drive our economy into the ground and send unemployment upwards. But Wayne Swan also said that the Gillard government will make some hard decisions to repair the national finances including some moderate cutbacks.
look you're literally mentally impaired

nobody really cares about what you have to say

It is highly likely Mr Swan will deliver the budget surplus in 2016 aided by a stronger economy.
see I mean you clearly need to be medicated
 

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If the Coalition are elected, is there any chance they'll drop their god awful internet idea and stick with Labor's NBN?
 

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If the Coalition are elected, is there any chance they'll drop their god awful internet idea and stick with Labor's NBN?
They probably won't do anything in regards to the internet when they are elected so they can get the budget to surplus.
 

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A former Howard battler here, I will be voting for Labor and the Greens. Afterall who wants Work Choices and the absolute horrible policies of climate change denials of Abbott. Abbott will gift Gillard a second term; Gillard 2013.
curbing immigration is a pretty great climate change policy
 

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