• Congratulations to the Class of 2024 on your results!
    Let us know how you went here
    Got a question about your uni preferences? Ask us here

HSC 2013 MX2 Marathon (archive) (1 Viewer)

Status
Not open for further replies.

Sy123

This too shall pass
Joined
Nov 6, 2011
Messages
3,730
Gender
Male
HSC
2013
Re: HSC 2013 4U Marathon









 
Last edited:
Joined
Sep 20, 2010
Messages
2,225
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2012
Re: HSC 2013 4U Marathon

Think you meant:

prove that x is a Fibonacci number if and only if 5x^2+4 or 5x^2-4 is a perfect square. (just being picky).
 

Sy123

This too shall pass
Joined
Nov 6, 2011
Messages
3,730
Gender
Male
HSC
2013
Re: HSC 2013 4U Marathon

Think you meant:

prove that x is a Fibonacci number if and only if 5x^2+4 or 5x^2-4 is a perfect square. (just being picky).
Yeah that sounds more correct, thank you
 
Joined
Sep 20, 2010
Messages
2,225
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2012
Re: HSC 2013 4U Marathon

Think of the subsets of as picking elements from the set. That is, if you choose 0 elements, you have 1 choice. If you choose 1 element, you have n choices, for 2, nC2. Ie: which is clearer from your point of view from the expansion of On replacement of n by 2n we get the result.
 

Sy123

This too shall pass
Joined
Nov 6, 2011
Messages
3,730
Gender
Male
HSC
2013
Re: HSC 2013 4U Marathon













EDIT 1: One sec, I may have made a mistake
EDIT 2: It should be fine now
EDIT 3: Changed some restrictions, I hope its fine now (B < 1, A > 1)
 
Last edited:

rural juror

New Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2013
Messages
16
Gender
Male
HSC
2013
Re: HSC 2013 4U Marathon

We know that:



Now let and





Multiply both sides by 3 to establish the inequality:



Now consider:







Split the RHS up into the following:







Now using the inequality we establish before, we get:



Let this be A:



Hence since







i might have a quicker way and easier to find,

looking at x^6(y^-2 - x^-2) > y^6(y^-2 - x^-2) *just assume the greater than sign is greater than or equal to, this inequality can be easily shown for x>y and y>x to hold true, then all you have to do is move the fractions over and you have the result. max 3 lines or so
 

rural juror

New Member
Joined
Feb 24, 2013
Messages
16
Gender
Male
HSC
2013
Re: HSC 2013 4U Marathon

oh same solution as sys thatll teach me to scroll down
 

Sy123

This too shall pass
Joined
Nov 6, 2011
Messages
3,730
Gender
Male
HSC
2013
Re: HSC 2013 4U Marathon

First post, let's see if I can get the latex right -- I'm studying how you've done it lol












Are you sure this one is correct? I'm fairly certain I can prove it has a lower bound of 9 and an upper bound of 90 pretty easily...
The first answer is correct, as for the second one, let me check my proof again, I got the result from 'Art of Problem SOlving' and it asked whether it diverged and converged.

Feel free to post your proof of the upper and lower bounds though

EDIT: Yeah my proof is wrong, I didn't consider the numbers where a zero is in the middle -.-
 
Last edited:

Sy123

This too shall pass
Joined
Nov 6, 2011
Messages
3,730
Gender
Male
HSC
2013
Re: HSC 2013 4U Marathon

Another good Putnam question







 
Last edited:

fionarykim

Member
Joined
Jul 21, 2012
Messages
264
Gender
Female
HSC
2013
Re: HSC 2013 4U Marathon

How are u guys typing so much maths here LOOOL im amazed

Also the questions just seem to just confuse my head, too hard ):
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top