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It's a result of brainwashing by media
 

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you guys are so biased lol. All of youse against islam should consider watching "My Name Is Khan" which pretty much portrays this thread in a movie sense. After watching it then tell your view on muslims.
that's actually a really shit movie lol
 

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and you guys call Muslims terrorists? I cant speak for Australia but America is the biggest terror of the world. Always invading muslim countries for no reason, drone strikes in Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan. And because of America's power Australia is a mere powerless puppet for the Americans because w/o America Australia is vulnerable.
 

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yeah but i believe in Islam its my faith. You dont see me randomly attacking or being biased against other religions for nothing.
 

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call it shit, call it award-winning. The fact is its based on truth
it also falls into the trap of stereotyping other races such as African Americans, the characterisation of African Americans in that movie was cringe-worthy and ironically subtly racist due to that
 

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and you guys call Muslims terrorists? I cant speak for Australia but America is the biggest terror of the world. Always invading muslim countries for no reason, drone strikes in Pakistan, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan. And because of America's power Australia is a mere powerless puppet for the Americans because w/o America Australia is vulnerable.
seems you've got your history wrong - America has only ever invaded two muslim countries (Iraq and Afghanistan), and has liberated five (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, and Egypt from Axis control).

also please tell me who Australia would be vulnerable to without America. would it be our muslim neighbours to the north?
 

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well as long as we all believe that there is a God and do enough good deeds throughout life we'll all be heading towards heaven, God's willing. PS SBW is a converted muslim :)
 

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because sbw is a paragon of all that is good in the world
 

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seems you've got your history wrong - America has only ever invaded two muslim countries (Iraq and Afghanistan), and has liberated five (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, and Egypt from Axis control).

also please tell me who Australia would be vulnerable to without America. would it be our muslim neighbours to the north?
What about the thousands killed in Pakistan by drone attacks? Obviously that's not terrorism though
 

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What about the thousands killed in Pakistan by drone attacks? Obviously that's not terrorism though
The use of unmanned aerial vehicles to drop small-payload bombs on Taliban combatants is quite clearly not terrorism.
 

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Pakistan sad to say is a country moving backwards instead of forwards. Hardly has electricity 24 hrs, water isnt the cleanest, a lot of beggars and on top of all that get droned by the United States killing many innocent women and kids. You guys say Taliban and Al-Qaeda and all these are bad USA is just as bad, do they ever get scrutinised as much? Dont get me wrong i hate the taliban and al qaeda and all this nonsense too but just saying America is the biggest terror. And the SBW comment, he is by far the most responsible rugby league player that isnt racist like Andrew Johns or drinks or any of that other stupidity that league players do
 

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And the SBW comment, he is by far the most responsible rugby league player that isnt racist like Andrew Johns or drinks or any of that other stupidity that league players do
Yes, ditching your contract (and continually discovery orders while in France, impeding the proper course of civil litigation against him for doing so) and hanging your team out to dry is completely responsible, and Sonny Bill is a paragon. How about someone like William Hopoate, who sacrificed two seasons in the NRL to fulfill his obligations as a Mormon and complete a two year mission?

theyre killing innocent civillians more than the Taliban, ie terrorism
No, that is quite clearly not true, and nor is what you have posited the definition of terrorism. [1] [2] [3] [4]. The civilian-military casualty ratio is actually quite favourable.
 

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Pakistan sad to say is a country moving backwards instead of forwards. Hardly has electricity 24 hrs, water isnt the cleanest, a lot of beggars and on top of all that get droned by the United States killing many innocent women and kids. You guys say Taliban and Al-Qaeda and all these are bad USA is just as bad, do they ever get scrutinised as much? Dont get me wrong i hate the taliban and al qaeda and all this nonsense too but just saying America is the biggest terror. And the SBW comment, he is by far the most responsible rugby league player that isnt racist like Andrew Johns or drinks or any of that other stupidity that league players do
all this is pretty much attributable to its own political corruption and the excessive and destructive influence of the religious extremes of politics holding the society back from progress and vying for power in a dog-eat-dog political arena that provides no benefit to the nation whatsoever. There is no way you can justify what the Taliban have done, what happened to Malala Yousafzai is testament to how abhorrent they really are. I'm not saying US foreign policy is necessarily altruistic or even particularly morally justifiable all the time, but trying to shift blame onto them rather than others more directly responsible for sickening violence against and neglect of fellow human beings is pretty bad.

And lol sbw being the most responsible player is pretty arguable
 

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when SBW walked out he wasnt Muslim then... And yes good for Hopoate.

Well if u think killing innocent people to get "peace" is alright so be it, its your opinion. If the US wanted to do the world a favour theyd focus more on the economy rather than attacking poor, powerless countries
 

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Doing all this arguing over the net doesn't solve anything. There are those who are too ignorant to see the good side of Islam, the side that is portrayed by the holy Quran and what all true Muslims follow. Then there are those who cause all the chaos and shit that gets media coverage i.e. The extremists who held the Sydney riots... A group of idiots who simply want attention.
At the end of the day not all Muslims do the right thing, and we have heard this before - there are those who are part of a group/religion who represent it negatively. If people want to judge Islam solely based on things such as an idiot who goes to Syria to kill himself, then so be it. At the end of the day, there will be the majority who abide by true Islamic teachings and keep it to themselves, never causing trouble for others, and hopefully the rest of you judge Islam by that, not from things like the Kenya shooting or other things that have been taken out of context.
 

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when SBW walked out he wasnt Muslim then... And yes good for Hopoate.

Well if u think killing innocent people to get "peace" is alright so be it, its your opinion. If the US wanted to do the world a favour theyd focus more on the economy rather than attacking poor, powerless countries
lol bullshit (i honestly dont care for the SBW stuff btw so ima ignore it). Iraq was hardly "powerless", the Saddam regime certainly didn't lack the power to commit a genocide of the Kurdish people. Pakistan is also hardly powerless both in terms of its military and their intelligence service the ISI.
 
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