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Re: Students taking easy subject options says SCEGGS Darlinghurst principal Jenny All

source for the bolded part?

also we already had this discussion about IQ in another thread, "IQ and the Wealth of Nations" (i think that is the source you were referring to) has been criticised by a lot of people for shonky methods for getting it's results, not to mention there is the more obvious psychometric problem of giving western-oriented IQ tests to non-western people
Definitely a big issue which needs to be noted with these tests.
 

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Re: Students taking easy subject options says SCEGGS Darlinghurst principal Jenny All

Edit: Sub-saharan african immigrant IQ is estimated at around 89 (cf. 100 for white Americans, 106 NE-asians), so the likely explanation is most of them get degrees in africa, which is dead easy, and then jumping to the front of the immigration queue due to having that degree
Somebody clearly has no idea how immigration works and how overseas educational institutions are assessed. you think we let every dick and harry into australia with a degree? fuck no. same thing goes for the US. again youre just talking out of your ass.
 

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Re: Students taking easy subject options says SCEGGS Darlinghurst principal Jenny All

Jeez calm down.

That's just what every single person I've asked who has done first year physics has told me. Guess you're the exception.
Nah, what asianese is definitely correct, 100%.

A lot of the HSC physics is not in first year but there are some aspects - especially electromagnetism. The only part I disagree with is the link with Ideas to Implementation - it does touch it but hardly anything significant.
 

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Re: Students taking easy subject options says SCEGGS Darlinghurst principal Jenny All

because its easier for rich, smart and/or educated africans to immigrate to America in the first place, and for those who dont already have degrees its ridiculously easy for them to get into university and receive financial support (because muh diversity), and if things for african-americans are anything to go by, they're probably subject to affirmative grading and graduation too
I thought that they get into university because of the simple fact that they are good at basketball... (no racism intended) but they are certainly bestial when it comes to basketball when you're comparing them to a person who is Caucasian...
 

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Re: Students taking easy subject options says SCEGGS Darlinghurst principal Jenny All

I thought that they get into university because of the simple fact that they are good at basketball... (no racism intended) but they are certainly bestial when it comes to basketball when you're comparing them to a person who is Caucasian...
Too bad Africans don't play basketball but only soccer.
 

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Re: Students taking easy subject options says SCEGGS Darlinghurst principal Jenny All

wow this has gone off topic. can we get back to what the article was saying?
 

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Re: Students taking easy subject options says SCEGGS Darlinghurst principal Jenny All

SCEGGS dropped so hard this year. Maybe they should stop taking the easier subjects.
 

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Re: Students taking easy subject options says SCEGGS Darlinghurst principal Jenny All

About 3 weeks ago I met a Sydney Uni Electrical Engineering student who has not done physics at school. I assumed he must have taken a bridging course in physics. Nope, he told me. I was gobsmacked. Sydney U, allowing a student to do Electrical Engg, without requiring him to do physics! He is finding the course hard, though.
1st lecture in physics 1A: everything you learnt in HSC physics is either wrong or useless, we are starting afresh
 

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Re: Students taking easy subject options says SCEGGS Darlinghurst principal Jenny All

1st lecture in physics 1A: everything you learnt in HSC physics is either wrong or useless, we are starting afresh
Well - good luck to all those planning to do Engineering without having done Physics and Extension Maths in High School.
 

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Re: Students taking easy subject options says SCEGGS Darlinghurst principal Jenny All

Well - good luck to all those planning to do Engineering without having done Physics and Extension Maths in High School.
http://community.boredofstudies.org/showthread.php?t=82113 said:
• Attacking the straw person

Another common fallacy occurs in counterarguments – that of attacking a straw person. The counterarguer commits the straw person fallacy if she argues against a claim that was not asserted in or implied by the original argument. While the counterargument might well be effective against that claim, if the claim was not made in the original argument, the counterargument attacks an imaginary opponent – a straw person rather than a real person. For example:
David: You ought to be very careful if you encounter a funnel web spider, because they are highly venomous and aggressive.

Pauline: Spiders are not dangerous! My friend has a pet tarantula, and it is really gentle.
Pauline puts forward a good argument against the generalisation "All spiders are dangerous", but that was not a claim made by David, nor a claim implied by his argument. Pauline has not given us any reason to think that funnel webs are not aggressive and dangerous. David’s response should be "But I didn’t say that!"

Note that, if there is a contentious suppressed premise in the original argument, it is good for the counterarguer to attack that premise. In such a case it might look as if the counterarguer is committing a straw person fallacy, because she attacks a claim that was not made explicitly in the original argument. But since the claim was implicit in the original argument, it is an appropriate target. e.g. The abortion example above. No straw person fallacy has been committed. For example:
Paul: Our ancestors, the white invaders, were responsible for many Aboriginal deaths. Therefore current white Australians should apologise to Aborigines.

John: As Paul notes, the white invaders are not literally the same people as current white Australians – they are our ancestors. Yet it is inappropriate to apologise for actions that we ourselves did not perform.
John's response is not a straw person fallacy, because, even though Paul did not state it explicitly, his argument does contain the suppressed premise that current white Australians are related to white invaders in such a way that it is appropriate for us to apologise for their actions. Paul's response should not be "But I didn't say that!", because in fact his argument implied it. Paul’s response should be "Here's why it is appropriate to bear responsibility for the actions of our ancestors..."

When and why do straw person fallacies occur? Often, straw person fallacies occur when the counterargument exaggerates the claims made in the original argument. You see this routinely in political exchanges, and in letters pages of newspapers. For example:
Letter 1: Tourists should be warned against swimming at Australian ocean beaches, because they are at high risk of drowning.

Letter 2: If you prohibit tourists from swimming, they won’t come here anymore. There goes the economy.
Note that letter 1 did not claim that tourists should be prohibited from swimming everywhere in Australia, just warned against swimming at ocean beaches. Why did the writer of letter 2 fall into the mistake of a straw person fallacy? Because by exaggerating your opponents claims, they are easier to dismiss. Thus, straw person fallacies often occur in disputes in which people have deeply entrenched opinions, where people have already made up their minds, and are unwilling to give serious consideration to alternative views.
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