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"Note: At least 18 credit points of Year 3 Recommended units of study must be completed across the year as a whole, with at least 12 credit points from Year 3 Recommended A."

This degree needs 24 Credit points of electives in the 3rd year.

Can someone explain this? Its rather confusing.
 

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You must complete 18 credit points (3 subjects) from Year 3 Recommended units(A/B). 12 credit points (2 subjects) must be be Year 3 Recommended A.

1 year has 48 credit points. 1 semester has 24 credit points (4 units of study/subjects * x credit points ea - x being what the unit of study is worth, which is generally 6 points with the exception of 3 point subjects)

Pretty straight forward?
 
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You must complete 18 credit points (3 subjects) from Year 3 Recommended units(A/B). 12 credit points (2 subjects) must be be Year 3 Recommended A.

1 year has 48 credit points. 1 semester has 24 credit points (4 units of study/subjects * x credit points ea - x being what the unit of study is worth, which is generally 6 points with the exception of 3 point subjects)

Pretty straight forward?
If you go to the link in my previous post and scroll down to Year 3, the list of electives are 12 CP Sem1 and 12 CP Sem2 adding to 24 CP of electives, not 18.

I still don't get it.
 

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If you go to the link in my previous post and scroll down to Year 3, the list of electives are 12 CP Sem1 and 12 CP Sem2 adding to 24 CP of electives, not 18.

I still don't get it.
Note: At least 18 credit points of Year 3 Recommended units of study must be completed across the year as a whole.

You may also need to do another Year 3 recommended unit to meet the requirements for your major. So what they're saying is that you need 18 credit points from Y3 recommended units and for the other you may choose to do a Y3 Recommended unit or something else if you don't need the UoS for your major. Also those a general guidelines I believe; they're not gonna force to go down a specific path as long as you do the required credits and follow the course rule. Eg: If you manage to do the core subject (lets say INFO3402) during summer/winter school during your 3rd year, you may choose to do 3 Y3 recommended units (18 credits) in 1 semester if the rules allow.
 

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Note: At least 18 credit points of Year 3 Recommended units of study must be completed across the year as a whole.

You may also need to do another Year 3 recommended unit to meet the requirements for your major. So what they're saying is that you need 18 credit points from Y3 recommended units and for the other you may choose to do a Y3 Recommended unit or something else if you don't need the UoS for your major. Also those a general guidelines I believe; they're not gonna force to go down a specific path as long as you do the required credits and follow the course rule. Eg: If you manage to do the core subject (lets say INFO3402) during summer/winter school during your 3rd year, you may choose to do 3 Y3 recommended units (18 credits) in 1 semester if the rules allow.
Okay I think I get it, so "recommended elective" is the key word here, the remaining 6 CP can be done in a UoS outside the list of recommended electives?

You may also need to do another Year 3 recommended unit to meet the requirements for your major.
What do you mean by this? Isn't that basically saying I can choose to do a non recommended elective and still be okay (since that is showing me the Information Systems major stream)?
 
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Okay I think I get it, so "recommended elective" is the key word here, the remaining 6 CP can be done in a UoS outside the list of recommended electives?
Correct! However.. upon closer inspect of your degree rules (no offense to IT/ENG student but god CUSP is confusing) you may be expected to do it regardless. I assume you're doing B.IT? this is your rule book for your degree.

2) To qualify for the award of the pass degree, a candidate must successfully complete 192 credit points, comprising:
(a) a minimum of 144 credit points of core and selected core units of study in the chosen stream; and
(b) 18 credit points of selected Mathematics and Statistics units, with at least six credit points at 2000-level or above; and
(c) 30 credit points of elective units of study;
(d) and ensuring:
(i) no more than 72 credit points in junior (1000-level) units of study, and
(ii) at least 84 credit points in 3000-level or above units of study
According to my calculations, during your 3rd year and 4th year you would have completed 24 credit points which 3000-level and above for your cores (this encompasses 6CP-INFO3402, 6CP-ISYS3401, 12CP-INFO3600). So you need 60 more credit points (you have 72 credit points for Y3/Y4 electives during those 2 years) which are 3000-level and above and these come from your electives which are suggested in your Y3/4 Recommended Electives A/B
 
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Correct! However.. upon closer inspect of your degree rules (no offense to IT/ENG student but god CUSP is confusing) you may be expected to do it regardless. I assume you're doing B.IT? this is your rule book for your degree.



According to my calculations, during your 3rd year and 4th year you would have completed 24 credit points which 3000-level and above for your cores (this encompasses 6CP-INFO3402, 6CP-ISYS3401, 12CP-INFO3600). So you need 60 more credit points (you have 72 credit points for Y3/Y4 electives during those 2 years) which are 3000-level and above and these come from your electives which are suggested in your Y3/4 Recommended Electives A/B
So don't I have room to add in a different elective if I so wanted?

Since there are 96 CP in total in years 3 and 4 and I am only required to choose 84 to be 3000-level +.
 

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You have a total of 12CP between your 3rd and 4th year to choose other subjects.

So according to the rules you need 192CP. 18CP which must be in MATH so you could 4x Junior math subjects (3CP each -MATH1001/1003/1004/1002/1005) to make up 12CP and one senior MATHSTAT subject. Now you have 174CP left to do.

According to the degree guide, you cores will make up 78CP (ENGG1805, INFO 1103, ELEC1601, INFO1105, COMP2129, INFO2120, ISYS2140, COMP2007, INFO2110, INFO3402, ISYS3401, INFO3600). So now you have 96CP left (66CP to meet the 144CP of core and selected cores req. I'm not sure if the MATH subjects count as selected cores, if they do then that should bring you down to 48CP/144CP)

You will also need make sure to complete 60CP (84-24CP from INFO3402/ISYS3401/INFO3600) worth of 3000-level or above subjects with your left over CP's so you have 30CP's left which should be filled up by your 1st/2nd year electives(6x2 1000-Level = 12CP, 6x2 2000-level=6CP, and 2 left for whatever you like)

I hope this helps you! I'm not an ENG students so maybe someone can clarify what are 'selected cores'.
 
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Thanks for taking your time i really appreciate it!
 

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I linked the wrong PDF earlier. Its been updated. Also, selected cores are noted here you can see that they've noted 128CP of cores and selected cores but it notes MATH under it which makes it a total 144CP but I'm still not sure if MATH is considered apart of the core or selected core.

My best guess is that any Y3/Y4 recommended unit A is considered selected cores. Also.. can someone shed some light on all the inconsistency with the ENG department resolutions? (both 2014)

This link states that:
at least 84 credit points in 3000-level or above units of study.
This other link (If you download as PDF) states that:
at least 90 credit points from 3000-level and above units for single degree
Another point is that some of the resolutions do not state that the student requires 144CPs from core and selected cores while some others do...?
 
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This is really weird:
http://sydney.edu.au/engineering/it/current_students/undergrad/bit.shtml
States
"First Year Core units (24 credit points)
ENGG1805 Professional Engineering and IT
INFO1003 Foundations of Information Technology
INFO1103 Introduction to Programming or INFO1903 Informatics (Advanced)
INFO1105/1905 Data Structures/(Advanced)"


Where http://cusp.sydney.edu.au/students/view-degree-page/degree_id/7

Has
INFO1103: Introduction to Programming
ENGG1805: Professional Engineering and IT
ELEC1601: Introduction to Computer Systems
INFO1105: Data Structures


For the same stream...
 

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Yeah man.. I really don't know. There are multiple sources from the department saying different things for the same things =\. Best to get a meeting with the degree coordinator.
 

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