• Congratulations to the Class of 2024 on your results!
    Let us know how you went here
    Got a question about your uni preferences? Ask us here

HSC 2015 MX1 Marathon (archive) (1 Viewer)

Status
Not open for further replies.

Sy123

This too shall pass
Joined
Nov 6, 2011
Messages
3,730
Gender
Male
HSC
2013
Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

Where 1 is not apart of the series
Well give it a go if you think it will work. Also for that expression, I don't know how you simplified:

because that is not true
 
Last edited:

integral95

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 16, 2012
Messages
779
Gender
Male
HSC
2013
Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

I get the feeling @Drsoccorball is not familiar with binomial theorem yet.
 

Drsoccerball

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 28, 2014
Messages
3,650
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2015
Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

Well give it a go if you think it will work. Also for that expression, I don't know how you simplified:

because that is not true
The RHS is the last term of the series its not equal to (n-1)Ck
 

FrankXie

Active Member
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
330
Location
Parramatta, NSW
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Uni Grad
2004
Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

well, another way is applying (which is a well-known result in any textbook) again and again
 
Last edited:

SilentWaters

Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2014
Messages
55
Gender
Male
HSC
2014
Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

This could work by induction on n. For the base case n = 1, we are forced to have k = 0:



which is true since both sides equate to 1.

Assuming this is true for , where we make the hypothesis:



We finish the inductive step in two cases.

(1) For



which by our assumption is



This will hold from Pascal's rule.

(2) k = s - 1



Both sides here equate to 1, and we're done.

EDIT: Missed a case, thank you InteGrand + FrankXie.
 
Last edited:

FrankXie

Active Member
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
330
Location
Parramatta, NSW
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Uni Grad
2004
Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

This could work by induction on n-1. For the base case (zero):



The right hand side produces the same results case-wise.

So assuming this is true up to some n-2, we complete the inductive step using Pascal's rule, as FrankXie mentioned:



which equates to

there is a flaw when proving by induction, can you find it? ;) this is a very good example that shows how to fully understand the logic behind induction.
 

InteGrand

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 11, 2014
Messages
6,109
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

there is a flaw when proving by induction, can you find it? ;) this is a very good example that shows how to fully understand the logic behind induction.
Is the flaw that, when we make the assumption for the inductive hypothesis, k can take on certain values only, but in the inductive step, k can also take on one more value, but this value isn't accounted for in the inductive hypothesis?
 

SilentWaters

Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2014
Messages
55
Gender
Male
HSC
2014
Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

Consider selecting n members for an exec. team from a pool of 2n candidates, where men and women are equally numbered.

On the left-hand side, we use the symmetric property of combinations to change the summation to:



Now choose 0 men, n women; 1 man, n-1 women; 2 men, n-2 women; and so on and so forth until we have exec teams with all the possible number of men and women.

This gives us the left hand side.

Simply selecting n people from the pool of 2n in the first place gives us the right hand side, and we are done.
 
Last edited:

SilentWaters

Member
Joined
Mar 20, 2014
Messages
55
Gender
Male
HSC
2014
Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

Frank's one is a bit tedious (unless, of course, there is a shorter way). Accounting for the saw-tooth shape of y = arcsin(sinx), such that each term of the sum oscillates in



we posit the following:



for some integral k. Working from decimal-point approximations of the positive half-pi intervals, we determine which quadrant each value of x falls into. From there, we compute:

 
Last edited:

FrankXie

Active Member
Joined
Oct 17, 2014
Messages
330
Location
Parramatta, NSW
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Uni Grad
2004
Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

Frank's one is a bit tedious (unless, of course, there is a shorter way). Accounting for the saw-tooth shape of y = arcsin(sinx), such that each term of the sum oscillates in



we posit the following:



for some integral k. Working from decimal-point approximations of the positive half-pi intervals, we determine which quadrant each value of x falls into. From there, we compute:

lol as far as i know there is no shorter way, like there is no general formula for
 

Drsoccerball

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 28, 2014
Messages
3,650
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2015
Re: HSC 2015 3U Marathon

In how many ways can 10 identical coins be allocated to 4 different boxes if no box will be left empty
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top