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Kiraken

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yes it is clearly the apocalypse
 

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LOL! at the BBC on the defensive... If it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, it's a duck...



http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34176631

People see a dead child wash ashore who actually came from the safety of Turkey after they fled from Syria and lose their minds... Most of these people are economic migrants and are not seeking asylum...
 
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LOL! at the BBC on the defensive... If it looks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, it's a duck...



http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-34176631

People see a dead child wash ashore who actually came from the safety of Turkey after they fled from Syria and lose their minds... Most of these people are economic migrants and are not seeking asylum...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/26/syria-heritage-in-ruins-before-and-after-pictures





yep, totally leaving for that economic opportunity, those buggers were waiting for a war as an excuse.

There are always gonna be shitbags taking advantage of a situation to get their foot in the door of another country. Doesn't make the refugee crisis any less genuine.

tbh, fuck the gulf states for not doing anything to help. Fuck the saudis and turks for helping ISIS.

The euro's are not dumb dumbs. immigration officials always catch people out on their lies. Like coincidentally all these 'syrians' dont speak a lick of arabic and their birthdays are jan 1.
 

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turks are helping isis? wow I'm turk and I've never heard that one before.
 

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you should really do better research than that
 

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you should really do better research than that
Turkey is not necessarily helping ISIS (although they are not helping in the fight against it), it's well documented that Turkey is bombing Kurdish fighters (who have presently been far more effective than the Iraqi Army in fighting ISIS in both Iraq and Syria) and Turkey in fact see the Kurds as a bigger threat than ISIS... Not only this, Turkey has been using ISIS as a means to obtain cheap oil, this would explain their general reluctance in participating in the bombing campaign against ISIS...
 

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europe is done, australia will be next
 

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[video]https://www.facebook.com/thisisEuropaRising/videos/511392135682343/[/video]
 

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germany needed cheap workers.

but honestly, fuck the turks. giant shitbags and playing mickeymouse fuck fuck games. They essentially let the kurds get slaughtered while they watched on the border.
 

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From Reddit:https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLo...summary_on_the_current_immigration_crisis_in/

Why is everyone migrating in huge numbers suddenly? From the articles I read it looks like the Europe Migrant issue is a long standing one. However, recent conflicts in countries have driven people to migrate at great risk to their life.
People from African countries are sick of poverty and abuse they endure in their countries. Majority come from Eritrea, Nigeria and Libya.
People from Afghanistan and Syria make up majority of the migrant population. They are fleeing wars in their respective countries are they get more and more brutal.
These people are not just running away from horrors in their own countries but are going in hope that they can get an opportunity to make their lives better for themselves and their family.
Why is it in the news? A lot of migrants are making these journeys under extremely dangerous conditions. Migrants from Africa pay huge amounts of money to undertake these journeys - a lot of them not even reaching their boats because abusers kidnap/rape/torture them to get more money out of them. The normal places they head to are Greece and Italy.
Even if they do reach the boats, they're tightly packed with more passengers than the boats can take. Some of them are not even boats but rubber dinghies. Owing due to all of these factors, there have been a lot of incidents where these boats have sunk in the sea drowning most of the migrants.
Another group of migrants are ones that are trying to get to Germany through Hungary and Austria. At least a 1000 people tried getting on trains from Budapest which led to the standoff. A lot of these people then started walking instead of taking the trains in protest against the government. Some Hungarians walked alongside them to show solidarity. The government then sent buses to pick up the migrants and transfer them to the Austrian border.
The migrants from Syria usually take the route to Turkey and then Greece. They face similar daunting journeys and these incidents have also been in news because of a lot of people perishing on the way. This story picked up steam after the photo of Aylan Kurdi surface on the internet - a very young Syrian child who died with his mother and older brother trying to make the journey from Turkey to Greece.
Are other people doing something to help them? Numerous organisations and people across the world are helping in any way they can. Organisations like the MSF are putting out patrol boats in hopes of intercepting the rubber dinghies from Africa so that they can give people safe passage.
What are the governments doing? Since Greece is already facing economic issues, they are finding it hard to fund any official rescue/patrol operations and have asked for help by other countries.
German and Austrian officials have declared that they will allow migrants into their countries.
Why is this story tough to follow? As you can see, there are migrants from a lot of different countries coming into Europe at the same time in different countries ranging from Greece, Italy, Turkey to Hungary, Austria, Germany and UK. Different countries response to this crises spins off into another story because each country has different laws governing asylum.
Also, since these migrants are themselves from so many different countries, each of their journeys spins off into their own story.
These are complex issues and would not be justified by just a single coverage. There are news articles tackling why this is happening in each country, what can be done by home countries, what can be done by countries to which they're fleeing and coverage of the migrant's journey from their home country to their final destination. Since so many countries are in play, it can get confusing to follow each and every thread.
What's Happening Now As the story picks up more steam, more people are stepping out to help the migrants. Some days ago, people themselves would go on streets to give migrants food and water. Now police in some countries are taking initiative and stocking up on food and supplies and are helping the migrants.
 

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The threat of terrorist attacks in the countries which experienced the uncontrollable influx of migrants has just been blown off the scales.
 
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What is the solution to this? With the birth rate in the countries where the migrants are coming from and the constant destabilization in the areas you're just going to have a continuous surge of people. How is it sustainable? Germany is taking in 800,000 people this year isn't it? (1% of their population in refugees lol), with 500k onwards each year afterwards, I'm all for taking in genuine refugees but how does that even work? Isn't there a youth unemployment crisis in Europe? The migrants are overwhelmingly male which begs the question why the media portray them as being so desperate when according to the U.N. I believe 75% are men, check the images from the Italian and Greek coastal guards, left the women and kids back home to deal with ISIS on their doorstop.

Another thing is that they claim to be refugees, they have been granted refuge in many countries, why is it they are all trying to leave those countries and get to the UK/Germany/Sweden? What's wrong with Italy, Greece and eastern Europe? Its not the weather, its probably not the food, hmm I wonder what else it could be?
 

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