• Congratulations to the Class of 2024 on your results!
    Let us know how you went here
    Got a question about your uni preferences? Ask us here

HSC 2015 Maths Marathon (archive) (1 Viewer)

Status
Not open for further replies.

teridax

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 3, 2014
Messages
609
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
N/A
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

Might be harder than last year, but I doubt too hard.
that is still a bad omen haha

nah, but 2u maths isn't too bad if you did your practice (it's mostly memorising methods and applying accordingly)
 

InteGrand

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 11, 2014
Messages
6,109
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

that is still a bad omen haha

nah, but 2u maths isn't too bad if you did your practice (it's mostly memorising methods and applying accordingly)
Well it shouldn't be easier than last year because last year's 2U was on the easier side wasn't it?
 

milkytea99

Active Member
Joined
Dec 16, 2014
Messages
313
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2015
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

only trolling lmfao

but srsly, the paper shouldn't be too bad - provided that you studied diligently

:p
I hope so haha because I actually work harder in maths than eco lol. I was too complacent for eco and was fked up by it yesterday
 

rand_althor

Active Member
Joined
May 16, 2015
Messages
554
Gender
Male
HSC
2015
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

How do I find the area of the shaded region?
Split it into two areas from x=0 to x=1 (point of intersection), and x=1 to x=2. The first part is the area under 4x-x2, while the second part is the area under 4-x2:
.

If you evaluate , you get 0.
 
Last edited:

Flop21

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 12, 2013
Messages
2,807
Gender
Female
HSC
2015
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

Split it into two areas, one per function:
.

If you find , the area you are finding is
I don't understand why you add them and use 1, instead of 2.
 

Drsoccerball

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 28, 2014
Messages
3,650
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2015
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

I don't understand why you add them and use 1, instead of 2.
Its because the area under the graph are both equal to each other. You could use 2 but would you want to integrate with a negative domain ?
EDIT: you can use it doesnt matter :p
 

Flop21

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 12, 2013
Messages
2,807
Gender
Female
HSC
2015
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

Its because the area under the graph are both equal to each other. You could use 2 but would you want to integrate with a negative domain ?
EDIT: you can use it doesnt matter :p
Oh I just got it! Thanks all.

Another question tho:



Why can't I use the area of the triangle under the line to minus from the area under the curve???

Say instead of doing f(parabola) - f(line), I do f(parabola) - 1/2ab (triangle area). But I get the wrong answer doing the latter.
 

rand_althor

Active Member
Joined
May 16, 2015
Messages
554
Gender
Male
HSC
2015
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

Why can't I use the area of the triangle under the line to minus from the area under the curve???

Say instead of doing f(parabola) - f(line), I do f(parabola) - 1/2ab (triangle area). But I get the wrong answer doing the latter.
If you're using O, A, and (4,0) to make your triangle, it is not a triangle as a side would be curved - the one from A to (4,0).
 

Flop21

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 12, 2013
Messages
2,807
Gender
Female
HSC
2015
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

If you're using O, A, and (4,0) to make your triangle, it is not a triangle as a side would be curved - the one from A to (4,0).
I meant like this:




Using integration, from 3 to 0, f(parabola) - area of triangle. Shouldn't this work?
 

kawaiipotato

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 28, 2015
Messages
463
Gender
Undisclosed
HSC
2015
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

I meant like this:




Using integration, from 3 to 0, f(parabola) - area of triangle. Shouldn't this work?
It will work (but the bounds are 0 to 3 or else it'll give a negative for the integral)
 

InteGrand

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 11, 2014
Messages
6,109
Gender
Male
HSC
N/A
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

Oh I just got it! Thanks all.

Another question tho:


Say instead of doing f(parabola) - f(line), I do f(parabola) - 1/2ab (triangle area).
These two methods are actually exactly the same. Integrating that line over the right bounds just gives us that triangle's area. If you're getting a wrong answer doing the latter, you might have made a silly mistake somewhere.
 

nisak

Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2015
Messages
34
Gender
Female
HSC
2015
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

I meant like this:




Using integration, from 3 to 0, f(parabola) - area of triangle. Shouldn't this work?
you're making it too complicated with the triangle, there is no need..
its just the integration of the parabola minus the straight line from 0 to the x-coordinate of A
 

Mr_Kap

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 24, 2015
Messages
1,127
Gender
Male
HSC
2015
Re: HSC 2015 2U Marathon

This is one of the 8 marks i got wrong in the 2013 paper: Why is answer D not B?

 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top