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The rest is straight forward...

So yes yours seems right.
Method is good for HSC but...
Your 4th line is missing something, when you reapply the formula proven in the previous part; a constant comes out (a 1/2 be exact). This happens twice but since you can factorise, so the 1/4 out the front should be a 1/8.
 
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Never ever use it in the HSC unless you are wiling to explain what a taylor series is and how to derive the result....
What about the differential equation solution, which both of these satisfy? (or is there some difficulty in elementarily justifying that if two functions are both solutions to a second-order differential equation, they are identical?)
 

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What about the differential equation solution, which both of these satisfy? (or is there some difficulty in elementarily justifying that if two functions are both solutions to a second-order differential equation, they are identical?)
Just because two functions satisfy the same second-order ODE, it doesn't mean they are identical.
 

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What about the differential equation solution, which both of these satisfy? (or is there some difficulty in elementarily justifying that if two functions are both solutions to a second-order differential equation, they are identical?)
not worth it
 

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Method is good for HSC but...
Your 4th line is missing something, when you reapply the formula proven in the previous part; a constant comes out (a 1/2 be exact). This happens twice but since you can factorise, so the 1/4 out the front should be a 1/8.
Yes sorry about that. The working out was rushed.
 

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Just because two functions satisfy the same second-order ODE, it doesn't mean they are identical.
Ah yes, thanks for clearing that. One of my peers claimed that was so (for the same situation I described), and I instantly doubted him, but did not have any merit to my claim. Also, I forgot to mention the differing of constants, but that probably doesn't change the matter of the fact.
 

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Until some fresh 2016'ers come in, and topic order becomes more important in my eyes, here's a question.

 

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At school so no pic:

a) x^4 + 6x^3 + 11x^2 + 6x + 1

b) (5^125-)/(5^25-1)=5^100 + 5^75 + 5^50 + 5^25 + 1
I let 5^25 = x
x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1 = x^4 + 6x^3 + 11x^2 + 6x + 1 -5x^3 -10x^2 - 5x
=(x+3x+1)^2 -5x(x+1)^2
=(x+3x+1-(x+1)root(5x))(x+3x+1+(x+1)root(5x))
Root(5x)=root(x^26)=x^13
Therefore it's factors are rational, so it is a composite number
 

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At school so no pic:

a) x^4 + 6x^3 + 11x^2 + 6x + 1

b) (5^125-)/(5^25-1)=5^100 + 5^75 + 5^50 + 5^25 + 1
I let 5^25 = x
x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1 = x^4 + 6x^3 + 11x^2 + 6x + 1 -5x^3 -10x^2 - 5x
=(x+3x+1)^2 -5x(x+1)^2
=(x+3x+1-(x+1)root(5x))(x+3x+1+(x+1)root(5x))
Root(5x)=root(x^26)=x^13
Therefore it's factors are integral, so it is a composite number
FTFY
 

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Please explain
First of all, "factors" are by definition integers (which implies they are rational). To prove a positive integer N ≥ 2 is composite, we are trying to show that it can be written as N = ab, where a and b are both integers with 1 < a, b < N (i.e. both strictly between 1 and N).
 

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Also, recall that a rational number is any number that can be expressed in the form p/q where p and q are integers, and q=/=0.

This means a rational number could be say 4/151
 

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Also, recall that a rational number is any number that can be expressed in the form p/q where p and q are integers, and q=/=0.

This means a rational number could be say 4/151
First of all, "factors" are by definition integers (which implies they are rational). To prove a positive integer N ≥ 2 is composite, we are trying to show that it can be written as N = ab, where a and b are both integers with 1 < a, b < N (i.e. both strictly between 1 and N).
Ah, so does integral pretty much just mean they are integers? Yeah I was confused why it was wrong that I wrote rational, now it's clear, thanks!
 

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Ah, so does integral pretty much just mean they are integers? Yeah I was confused why it was wrong that I wrote rational, now it's clear, thanks!
Yeah, integral is another word for integer (as an 'adjective').
 
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