HSC 2016 MX2 Integration Marathon (archive) (9 Viewers)

[Paradoxica]

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I got this question off an integration bee btw

Yes, because you can't write your own questions.

 

[leehuan]

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Yes, because you can't write your own questions.

I once did. And now I'm not motivated to.

 

[Drsoccerball]

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Yes, because you can't write your own questions.

I never knew this was the "Only questions made by yourself Integration Marathon."

 

[Paradoxica]

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I never knew this was the "Only questions made by yourself Integration Marathon."

It's not, but its more fun if it is.

 

[Drsoccerball]

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It's not, but its more fun if it is.

If it isn't called, "Only questions made by yourself Integration Marathon," then stop making fun of people for using questions that are not theirs.

 

[Paradoxica]

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never mocked them

but then again who knows what you see between the words

 

[leehuan]

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never mocked them

but then again who knows what you see between the words

Bluntly putting it out that "you can't ..." sounds at the minimal like mocking.

The alternative was trying to insult me.

 

[abecina]

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[leehuan]

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._. Posted so many times now

 

[abecina]

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._. Posted so many times now

Soz been out of the thread for a while - good to know its a fav

 

[leehuan]

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Soz been out of the thread for a while - good to know its a fav

Yea dw about it lol, but at least 2 people have done it.


I'll sketch out the (slightly non-X2) method anyway.

1. Border-flip method allows two integrals to be summed up.
2. Use a log law just to put the thing that will generate the -pi/2 ln(2) aside
3. u-substitution combined with periodicity of sine
4. Riemann sums (or alternatively decompose using L'Hopitals)

 

[porcupinetree]

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[DatAtarLyfe]

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Soz but where did the sin2x go?

 

[InteGrand]

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Soz but where did the sin2x go?

Mental substitution of u = 2x.

 

[DatAtarLyfe]

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Mental substitution of u = 2x.

Oh ok, thanks

 

[leehuan]

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This was a question I remember doing (at least a similar variant) last year. Not sure if it was ever posted again.

 

[Paradoxica]

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This was a question I remember doing (at least a similar variant) last year. Not sure if it was ever posted again.

Recall the following identity:



Setting n=1008, gives us



Then the integral is the following sum:



This is the partial sum for the Leibniz formula for π, which has no elementary closed form.

 

[leehuan]

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Probably a wrong boundary. Maybe it was meant to be pi, not pi/2

Edit: Hold the thought it still won't work. Ok fair enough

 

[Carrotsticks]

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This is the partial sum for the Leibniz formula for π, which has no elementary closed form.

Yes it does. It will be some giant rational number.

We only really talk about 'closed forms' for infinite sums.

 

[Paradoxica]

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Probably a wrong boundary. Maybe it was meant to be pi, not pi/2

Edit: Hold the thought it still won't work. Ok fair enough

You have forgotten an earlier conversation of your own which established the niceness of the generalised integral for only odd integer values.