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Point taken, but not a joke. How is pushing towards 50/50 gender stats in a business going to help advance anything in society or produce anything of good ? Business strategy my arse

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Businesses don't exist to "advance anything in society or produce anything of good", they exist to make money...

Making money is a businesses overall and main priority. Everything else is second to that.

That's strange considering the original feminists advocated for a compulsory draft for men. Yay, equality!!!
You know what shows a lot about a person's personality? When they see this and then advocate for women to be in the draft. How about you just wish to abolish it all together for BOTH sexes.
 

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Because men really have really struggled with their rights over the years haven't they?
Currently, in what ways are women's rights being violated in todays day and age in the West?
 

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Because men really have really struggled with their rights over the years haven't they?
It's not that men have struggled - it's that these days feminism has turned into a movement that suggests one sex is more superior than another. This aggressive mentality emanates a larger disdain towards the movement and stagnates the chance of equality ever occurring. Fight for equality first.
 

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And it's because of what feminism has become that men have struggles. Our problems are belittled, women are favoured due to political correctness and the fear people have of being called sexist and being reprimanded proves an impediment. Feminism is a cancer on the world.
 

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It's not that men have struggled - it's that these days feminism has turned into a movement that suggests one sex is more superior than another. This aggressive mentality emanates a larger disdain towards the movement and stagnates the chance of equality ever occurring. Fight for equality first.
I'm not sure the posters in this thread understands what the goal of feminism is. The goal of feminism is to "to define, establish, and achieve equal political, economic, personal, and social rights for women" not to establish a matriarchal society where all males are oppressed by our feminine overladies.
 

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I'm not sure the posters in this thread understands what the goal of feminism is. The goal of feminism is to "to define, establish, and achieve equal political, economic, personal, and social rights for women" not to establish a matriarchal society where all males are oppressed by our feminine overladies.
That's great, in theory.
 

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Yes, but you got to realise what is actually happening, it's none of the above and feminism is degenerating into an outlet for power-hungry women to hate on men.
 

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I'm not sure the posters in this thread understands what the goal of feminism is. The goal of feminism is to "to define, establish, and achieve equal political, economic, personal, and social rights for women" not to establish a matriarchal society where all males are oppressed by our feminine overladies.
I think we all know what it is, but what we're seeing is different to what the textbook definition says it is.
 

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I think we all know what it is, but what we're seeing is different to what the textbook definition says it is.
Then it can't be called true feminism then, can it?
 

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Then it can't be called true feminism then, can it?
Well then there are very few true feminists.

If you call a crocodile a lizard, it is still a crocodile.
(creative analogy)
 

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I think we all know what it is, but what we're seeing is different to what the textbook definition says it is.
What exactly are we seeing? Small independent situations, even anecdotes about misandrists, entirely blown out of proportion to misconstrue and taint the definition of feminism? I have seen far more people hating on feminism and saying "Feminism is femininazi11!!" than actual misandrists or "power hungry women hating on men". I admit there are a few influential misandrists hidden under the guise of feminism that could cause an eyebrow raising but have you met actual misandrists in real life? I sure haven't but meanwhile I've met numerous feminist haters who reduce the entire feminist movement into a "I hate men!!!" movement and hence blindly hate on feminism.
 

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What exactly are we seeing? Small independent situations, even anecdotes about misandrists, entirely blown out of proportion to misconstrue and taint the definition of feminism? I have seen far more people hating on feminism and saying "Feminism is femininazi11!!" than actual misandrists or "power hungry women hating on men". I admit there are a few influential misandrists hidden under the guise of feminism that could cause an eyebrow raising but have you met actual misandrists in real life? I sure haven't but meanwhile I've met numerous feminist haters who reduce the entire feminist movement into a "I hate men!!!" movement and hence blindly hate on feminism.
Not the entire movement. Just the current one.

THe older movements were great as they were about equality. E.g. voting rights, equal pay act, females elected into parliament, women allowed to work in hospitals in sydney, sex discrimination, females in the army .... etc.

Nothing much has been achieved since the year 2000 or late 1990s.
 

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And what's currently on the feminist agenda mate? Stop manspreading? I'm sure the women facing stoning are really appreciative that feminists in the West are prioritising the abolishment of men opening their legs as opposed to death, rape, and lack of education for women in the East.
 

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What exactly are we seeing? Small independent situations, even anecdotes about misandrists, entirely blown out of proportion to misconstrue and taint the definition of feminism? I have seen far more people hating on feminism and saying "Feminism is femininazi11!!" than actual misandrists or "power hungry women hating on men". I admit there are a few influential misandrists hidden under the guise of feminism that could cause an eyebrow raising but have you met actual misandrists in real life? I sure haven't but meanwhile I've met numerous feminist haters who reduce the entire feminist movement into a "I hate men!!!" movement and hence blindly hate on feminism.
Honestly at least 50% of people who I've met who openly identify as feminists are like that
 

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Not the entire movement. Just the current one.

THe older movements were great as they were about equality. E.g. voting rights, equal pay act, females elected into parliament, women allowed to work in hospitals in sydney, sex discrimination, females in the army .... etc.

Nothing much has been achieved since the year 2000 or late 1990s.
You must be joking. Feminism is not limited to the Western world but for your sake, I'll address what Western feminism has achieved over the years. First of all, the third wave of feminism has been more about furthering social causes for women compared to previous waves so perhaps that's why people don't think feminism has achieved anything (although, there were introduced bills actively fighting for equality but I'll address that later).

Although, if we're going to discuss females being elected into parliament, then you should already know the current large disparity of female to male MPs as wells as our numerous misogynist politicians (Tony Abbott, Peter Dutton for example).

So what feminism has achieved:
-Empowerment: programs and new thinking which has pushed women to go forth in STEM careers and question why structural inequalities exist. There's undoubtedly been a large increase of women in STEM careers yet still a large amount of publicised cases of sexual harassment and discrimination which feminism is actively attempting to fight. Obviously there are laws in place which attempt to stop these situations yet a woman complaining about sexual harassment and suing her employer actively destroys her career despite a modest settlement (only if she wins, which isn't 100%). I think, along with numerous feminists recognise it is not a flaw in justice system that perpetuates this but rather societal views on women, such as the objectification and sexualisation of women that disrespect their abilities and reduce them to sexual beings. I acknowledge not all men do this but numerous reports state this is a general occurrence (especially in male dominated industries)

-Laws: feminism has seen policies, bills and laws passed which facilitate women in fulfilling their desires and moving this world closer to gender equality: anti-discrimination bills, childcare laws etc. For example it was only in 1994 that marital rape was declared illegal in the United Kingdom as part of the Criminal Justice Act. And in Australia, in 2009 Labor introduced Australia’s first paid parental leave scheme. Also did you know that it was only in 2011, when Defence Minister Stephen Smith announced that women will be allowed to serve in frontline combat roles by 2016?

Feminism has done quite a lot but sadly I haven't covered even a fraction of what feminism has achieved. If you're not convinced, I invite you to research yourself with credible, unbiased sources. Now, in the same vein, feminism is still needed, in the Western world and non-western worlds. Gender Pay Gap still exists, yes it does shockingly. Please check this link and read the report:https://www.wgea.gov.au/sites/default/files/Gender_Pay_Gap_Factsheet.pdf
If you're going to counter my argument which the YouTube video of "Pay Gap is a myth" then please know the Australian Bureau of Statistics is far more credible source than random articles or videos online.
 

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You must be joking. Feminism is not limited to the Western world but for your sake, I'll address what Western feminism has achieved over the years. First of all, the third wave of feminism has been more about furthering social causes for women compared to previous waves so perhaps that's why people don't think feminism has achieved anything (although, there were introduced bills actively fighting for equality but I'll address that later).

Although, if we're going to discuss females being elected into parliament, then you should already know the current large disparity of female to male MPs as wells as our numerous misogynist politicians (Tony Abbott, Peter Dutton for example).

So what feminism has achieved:
-Empowerment: programs and new thinking which has pushed women to go forth in STEM careers and question why structural inequalities exist. There's undoubtedly been a large increase of women in STEM careers yet still a large amount of publicised cases of sexual harassment and discrimination which feminism is actively attempting to fight. Obviously there are laws in place which attempt to stop these situations yet a woman complaining about sexual harassment and suing her employer actively destroys her career despite a modest settlement (only if she wins, which isn't 100%). I think, along with numerous feminists recognise it is not a flaw in justice system that perpetuates this but rather societal views on women, such as the objectification and sexualisation of women that disrespect their abilities and reduce them to sexual beings. I acknowledge not all men do this but numerous reports state this is a general occurrence (especially in male dominated industries)

-Laws: feminism has seen policies, bills and laws passed which facilitate women in fulfilling their desires and moving this world closer to gender equality: anti-discrimination bills, childcare laws etc. For example it was only in 1994 that marital rape was declared illegal in the United Kingdom as part of the Criminal Justice Act. And in Australia, in 2009 Labor introduced Australia’s first paid parental leave scheme. Also did you know that it was only in 2011, when Defence Minister Stephen Smith announced that women will be allowed to serve in frontline combat roles by 2016?

Feminism has done quite a lot but sadly I haven't covered even a fraction of what feminism has achieved. If you're not convinced, I invite you to research yourself with credible, unbiased sources. Now, in the same vein, feminism is still needed, in the Western world and non-western worlds. Gender Pay Gap still exists, yes it does shockingly. Please check this link and read the report:https://www.wgea.gov.au/sites/default/files/Gender_Pay_Gap_Factsheet.pdf
If you're going to counter my argument which the YouTube video of "Pay Gap is a myth" then please know the Australian Bureau of Statistics is far more credible source than random articles or videos online.
I think that the movement before was more concerned with equality and the movements these days are concerned with superiority
 

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Honestly at least 50% of people who I've met who openly identify as feminists are like that
Really? Could you reply with some anecdotes? I believe you but I'm just curious because I haven't met any. On the other hand, I think our views are a bit biased? You don't see feminism as a good thing so when you identify feminists perhaps you already have a negative view of them? I may be incorrect and I apologise if I was rude with my assumption. (Although if they are misandrists, you should tell them off tbh)

And what's currently on the feminist agenda mate? Stop manspreading? I'm sure the women facing stoning are really appreciative that feminists in the West are prioritising the abolishment of men opening their legs as opposed to death, rape, and lack of education for women in the East.
Have you met any feminists in real life?
 

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I think that the movement before was more concerned with equality and the movements these days are concerned with superiority
How so? How is wanting to close the gender gap wanting to be superior? You also realise Australian feminism has opened various shelters for women in abusive relationships? So wanting a safe place and environment free of domestic abuse is wanting to be superior? Encouraging females to engage in pervious male dominated fields is wanting to be superior?

I agree there are some misandrists who want to be superior to men but I haven't seen any incidents that indicate feminism wants to be superior to men. Feel free to disagree and point out evidence though.
 
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