can your school affect your atar/hsc? (1 Viewer)

[monkeyseemonkeydo]

i asked someone this and they said it didn't. but other people have told me that it does. help?????????

 

[jimmysmith560]

First, it is useful to familiarise yourself with key terms that NESA uses and what they refer to exactly. Essentially, there are 3 main terms to understand:

• The Examination Mark refers to a student's external mark (i.e. your mark in the HSC exam for each respective subject). This mark is subject to alignment. This mark contributes 50% of a student's HSC mark.
• The Assessment Mark refers to a student's internal mark. This mark is subject to the moderation process and alignment. This mark contributes 50% of a student's HSC mark.
• The HSC Mark is the student's final mark for a particular subject. This mark is the average of the student's Assessment Mark and Examination Mark. Consider an example where a student's Assessment Mark for Mathematics Extension 2 is 84, and their Examination Mark is 80. Their HSC Mark thus becomes
  
  . The HSC Mark is the mark that will be used to determine a student's ATAR.

In year 12, you will complete a number of school-based assessment tasks/exams across your subjects. While you will be achieving particular results in those assessment tasks/exams, the element that will matter is your ranks relative to your cohort, which will be determined by your performance in the school-based assessment tasks/exams of your respective subjects. Those ranks, in addition to the Examination Marks achieved by your cohort, will be used as part of the moderation process, which is used to calculate students' Assessment Marks.

While different schools set assessment tasks/exams that are based on the same syllabus, the way in which those tasks are designed, and the way they are marked may be different. The moderation process adjusts students' Assessment Marks so that they can be fairly compared across the state. As mentioned above, this adjustment is performed using 2 elements:

• a student's rank relative to their cohort in a particular subject
• The Examination Marks achieved by the student's cohort in a particular subject.

Examination Marks are the only component that would allow NESA to achieve this fairness because the only task that all students complete that is exactly the same and is marked in exactly the same way is the HSC exam.

Essentially, the highest Assessment Mark is adjusted to equal the highest Examination Mark of any student in a school cohort. Similarly, the lowest Assessment Mark is adjusted to equal the lowest Examination Mark of any student in a school cohort. In the case of other ranks, the Assessment Mark will not equal its equivalent Examination Mark. However, it will be similar. Consider the following example from NESA:

As you can see, the highest Assessment Mark was adjusted to equal the highest Examination Mark (92). The lowest Assessment Mark was also adjusted to equal the lowest Examination Mark (50). However, the Assessment Mark for the student ranked third (74) is not identical to the third-highest Examination Mark (72), although it is similar.

Based on this, it can be inferred that your cohort can impact your Assessment Mark only. Therefore, ranking as highly as possible in your school-based assessment tasks/exams is usually seen as an effective way of mitigating the effect of your cohort on your Assessment Mark, allowing you to maximise your Assessment Mark.

It is worth noting that your own Examination Mark in a particular subject is determined through your own performance, meaning that it is not affected by factors such as your rank relative to your cohort or your school rank.

I hope this helps!

 

[Ledepressedrightnow]

First, it is useful to familiarise yourself with key terms that NESA uses and what they refer to exactly. Essentially, there are 3 main terms to understand:

• The Examination Mark refers to a student's external mark (i.e. your mark in the HSC exam for each respective subject). This mark is subject to alignment. This mark contributes 50% of a student's HSC mark.
• The Assessment Mark refers to a student's internal mark. This mark is subject to the moderation process and alignment. This mark contributes 50% of a student's HSC mark.
• The HSC Mark is the student's final mark for a particular subject. This mark is the average of the student's Assessment Mark and Examination Mark. Consider an example where a student's Assessment Mark for Mathematics Extension 2 is 84, and their Examination Mark is 80. Their HSC Mark thus becomes
  
  . The HSC Mark is the mark that will be used to determine a student's ATAR.

In year 12, you will complete a number of school-based assessment tasks/exams across your subjects. While you will be achieving particular results in those assessment tasks/exams, the element that will matter is your ranks relative to your cohort, which will be determined by your performance in the school-based assessment tasks/exams of your respective subjects. Those ranks, in addition to the Examination Marks achieved by your cohort, will be used as part of the moderation process, which is used to calculate students' Assessment Marks.

While different schools set assessment tasks/exams that are based on the same syllabus, the way in which those tasks are designed, and the way they are marked may be different. The moderation process adjusts students' Assessment Marks so that they can be fairly compared across the state. As mentioned above, this adjustment is performed using 2 elements:

• a student's rank relative to their cohort in a particular subject
• The Examination Marks achieved by the student's cohort in a particular subject.

Examination Marks are the only component that would allow NESA to achieve this fairness because the only task that all students complete that is exactly the same and is marked in exactly the same way is the HSC exam.

Essentially, the highest Assessment Mark is adjusted to equal the highest Examination Mark of any student in a school cohort. Similarly, the lowest Assessment Mark is adjusted to equal the lowest Examination Mark of any student in a school cohort. In the case of other ranks, the Assessment Mark will not equal its equivalent Examination Mark. However, it will be similar. Consider the following example from NESA:

As you can see, the highest Assessment Mark was adjusted to equal the highest Examination Mark (92). The lowest Assessment Mark was also adjusted to equal the lowest Examination Mark (50). However, the Assessment Mark for the student ranked third (74) is not identical to the third-highest Examination Mark (72), although it is similar.

Based on this, it can be inferred that your cohort can impact your Assessment Mark only. Therefore, ranking as highly as possible in your school-based assessment tasks/exams is usually seen as an effective way of mitigating the effect of your cohort on your Assessment Mark, allowing you to maximise your Assessment Mark.

It is worth noting that your own Examination Mark in a particular subject is determined through your own performance, meaning that it is not affected by factors such as your rank relative to your cohort or your school rank.

I hope this helps!

No Jimmy I had a point. Size in terms of cohort size. Wouldn't it help? Also long lasting performance in terms of everyone being motivated.

Jimmy we don't have time for long answers in currently less relevant forums. We need you to calm down the class of 2021 especially ahmed