• Best of luck to the class of 2024 for their HSC exams. You got this!
    Let us know your thoughts on the HSC exams here
  • YOU can help the next generation of students in the community!
    Share your trial papers and notes on our Notes & Resources page
MedVision ad

minimum value of a cubic?? (1 Viewer)

Masaken

Unknown Member
Joined
May 8, 2021
Messages
1,730
Location
in your walls
Gender
Female
HSC
2023
i know that to find minimum of a parabola if there is one is to use the vertex formula, but is there a general way to find the minimum value of a cubic or any graph in general??

View attachment 36126
(above is the qn i'm stuck on but i want to know how to do it on my own)
 

Scimat

Active Member
Joined
Jan 13, 2021
Messages
171
Gender
Male
HSC
2024
You can differentiate to find stationary points and see which point gives you a minimum. But for cubic or most odd functions, they have no range restrictions. So they can take all values of y and thus have no minimum points
 

Deem_Skills

Member
Joined
Jul 13, 2022
Messages
71
Gender
Male
HSC
2024
Ye use first derivative and let it equal 0 to get stationary points then get the double derivative and test those points to determine if it's concave up or down (if double derivative > 0 it's concave up and you have a minimum and if it's < 0 it's concave down and you have a maximum and if it's = 0 it's a horizontal point of inflexion and is not a max or min)

also beware that first derivative doesnt pick up on tips like in absolute value
 

Masaken

Unknown Member
Joined
May 8, 2021
Messages
1,730
Location
in your walls
Gender
Female
HSC
2023
You can differentiate to find stationary points and see which point gives you a minimum. But for cubic or most odd functions, they have no range restrictions. So they can take all values of y and thus have no minimum points
Ye use first derivative and let it equal 0 to get stationary points then get the double derivative and test those points to determine if it's concave up or down (if double derivative > 0 it's concave up and you have a minimum and if it's < 0 it's concave down and you have a maximum and if it's = 0 it's a horizontal point of inflexion and is not a max or min)

also beware that first derivative doesnt pick up on tips like in absolute value
ohhhh, i forgot about using this, tyvm!!
(iirc this is a y12 topic right? would it still be fine to use it in a y11 yearly paper?)
 

Deem_Skills

Member
Joined
Jul 13, 2022
Messages
71
Gender
Male
HSC
2024
ohhhh, i forgot about using this, tyvm!!
(iirc this is a y12 topic right? would it still be fine to use it in a y11 yearly paper?)
I doubt a question that requires that technique would appear in y11 because yes it's a year 12 topic. If I were you I'd make sure that there isnt any other way to solve the question and I'd go to it as a last resort otherwise it's probably not a good idea to use it unless the paper is for accelerated.
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 0, Guests: 1)

Top