I’ve heard that if a class has less than 8 people, rankings don’t matter. (1 Viewer)

[katiekms]

I keep hearing from my teachers that if a class has 7 or less people, then rankings don’t affect you. It seems like too specific a number to just mean a small class in general makes rankings not matter, but i’ve tried looking up information about it to no avail. is this true? and if this is true, why? and if its not true, why the hell do my teachers keep telling us this???

 

[youraverageangel]

same dilemma here but i got like 2 kids and im 1st but does it matter?

 

[youraverageangel]

also howd u manage to get that train wreck thing under ur username

 

[katiekms]

also howd u manage to get that train wreck thing under ur username

you need to have had an account for a year and a certain amount of messages/reactions i think?

 

[youraverageangel]

you need to have had an account for a year and a certain amount of messages/reactions i think?

but howd u do it

 

[katiekms]

but howd u do it

account details -> custom title

 

[liamkk112]

I keep hearing from my teachers that if a class has 7 or less people, then rankings don’t affect you. It seems like too specific a number to just mean a small class in general makes rankings not matter, but i’ve tried looking up information about it to no avail. is this true? and if this is true, why? and if its not true, why the hell do my teachers keep telling us this???

i mean theres no specific number, and tbh its very variable on the situation

- everyone does well: then yeah the ranking doesn't matter or has very minimal impact on your internal mark, this could occur at some like super small classes for some language subject or something

- most people do moderately well but the gaps between your marks are decently large and this is also true for the hsc exams: then your ranking could have some effect, you'd probably want to be at the top ranks if u want a good mark

- only 1-2 people in the class do well: then your ranking will have a big effect

so your ranking still does matter, just keep gunning for the top spot if u want the most security (i think its a good idea to put your score in your hands anyway, why let someone else's performance affect yours)

 

[katiekms]

i mean theres no specific number, and tbh its very variable on the situation

- everyone does well: then yeah the ranking doesn't matter or has very minimal impact on your internal mark, this could occur at some like super small classes for some language subject or something

- most people do moderately well but the gaps between your marks are decently large and this is also true for the hsc exams: then your ranking could have some effect, you'd probably want to be at the top ranks if u want a good mark

- only 1-2 people in the class do well: then your ranking will have a big effect

so your ranking still does matter, just keep gunning for the top spot if u want the most security (i think its a good idea to put your score in your hands anyway, why let someone else's performance affect yours)

yeah but like they tell me if there’s less than 8 people then you get your own mark anyway - they’re saying that with that number rankings literally have no effect. obviously i’m seeing now that it’s probably not true but why have they told us this???

 

[scaryshark09]

yeah but like they tell me if there’s less than 8 people then you get your own mark anyway - they’re saying that with that number rankings literally have no effect. obviously i’m seeing now that it’s probably not true but why have they told us this???

yeah this is not true. rankings matter to at least a small extent for all situations except where there is 1 person in the class.

in fact, i'd argue rankings matter quite alot for small classes, since the moderated internals can be way more variable in smaller cohorts.

 

[katiekms]

yeah this is not true. rankings matter to at least a small extent for all situations except where there is 1 person in the class.

in fact, i'd argue rankings matter quite alot for small classes, since the moderated internals can be way more variable in smaller cohorts.

thanks for your help, that makes sense! i really wonder why they tell us this then

 

[Armon]

The reason your teacher has got this in her head is that when schools receive the hsc data reports nesa only sends one of the mark distribution graphs if the relevant subject cohort has greater than a certain amount of people. I thought it was 5 but might be 8. But no, alignment and moderation is incredibly important in an 8 person cohort -> significantly more than if it was a larger cohort as slight movements make big impact on overall marks.